If Trump attacked CNN WWE-style, CNN just counter-punchedin a more grown up UFC-style.
BTW, all those people who think Trump’s tweet was “inciting violence”, did you also think that that New York play that showed someone assassinating a Trump figure was “inciting murder” as well? How about Kathy Griffin - was that a “joke” or “inciting murder”?
And try to answer the question asked and not deflect to who was doing it.
If you punch like that in the UFC the ref will soon be waving his hand over your bloody body. First of all, it’s a joke, maybe not a good joke, but taking seriously a tweeted clip from a professional wrestling show with a one cartoon character punching another who has a CNN logo covering his head is not a grown up reaction at all. There is plenty of real news in the world but CNN has spent the entire day with a serious case of the flutters. If CNN wants to start doing their job now that would be fine, they can start some unbiased journalism any time they want and take the editorial content that comprises the majority of their broadcasts and relegate it two 5 minutes of cranky and whining puppets at the end of the show.
I do believe there was almost universal condemnation of Kathy Griffin here after that episode. But who’s doing the deflecting here. We were talking about Trump, right?
The new york play, as has been pointed out to you on numerous occasions, was not a threat to trump. It was a shakespeare play.
When Obama was president, and they used an Obama look alike for the caesar role, we didn’t get all bent out of shape about it. We realized that the point of the play is that, no matter how annoying the ruler, assassination will only make things worse. Do you actually know how that play turned out? How things turned out for Caesar’s assassins? It was not inciting violence against the president, it was cautioning against it. This has been explained on these boards a few times, I suppose you must have missed it. This time, as it is a reply directly to your inquiry into the matter, I hope that you see it and don’t feel the need to ask about it again.
Kathy griffin, that was a bad joke, in poor taste, and I think you have also noted that pretty much everyone on the left has already called her out on it. I don’t think that she was advocating for the death of the president, but more making a joke about his comments about “blood coming out of her… whatever”, but in any case, she has been called out and chastised by the left for it. Her career, what was left of it, has fallen apart, and no one really wants to be her friend.
Have you called out trump for this in the way that the left has called out KG for her “joke”? I think not.
Now, you poison your question by saying “[do] not deflect to who was doing it.” Do you really not think that who it is that is making comments like this makes a difference? Do you really not think that the president is a bit more powerful than some z-list comedian? Do you not think that that power comes with any level of responsibility whatsoever?
I didn’t vote for KG, I didn’t vote for the shakespeare in the park company that put on the play. You voted for president WTF, why don’t you feel any responsibility to call him out for his actions, when you expect us to call out anyone else?
Were I to have the power, I’d love to bring back Mr. Hitchens just for a single half-hour tirade against Trump. However, considering it a little further I reckon he’d be furious as any effort he expended on an intellectual midget like Donny-boy is effort wasted.
Sure, he’d do it, but his heart wouldn’t be in it.
Moreover, no one teaches their children to model themselves after a comedian. And parents spend a lot of time teaching their children the difference between make-believe (like what you see in a play) and real life. The president is supposed to be a role model who embodies the very best of American values. The media and entertainers are held to totally different standards, as they should be.
By continuing to defend Trump, conservatives are teaching their children to look up to a loudmouth, ignorant, bullying, attention-whoring buffoon. But I have no doubt that when their children start acting like Trump, they’ll blame the liberal Hollywood media before they blame themselves.
We’re talking about the POTUS here, not a bunch of actors. Let’s limit this to what the Hairy Yam does, not unrelated other people. See the difference? Do you see it?
He says as he attempts to deflect the entire thread. (Bolding mine)
He may be busy for a while, there’s a new pit thread on him.
Kathy Griffin is not the President nor has his backing or power. Much less his responsibilities. Nor has she made any claims of focusing on the important issues of our time like making America great.
And it is you who are deflecting. I ask you straight out: do you think his behavior is making America great? (No deflecting) ![]()
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Condemnation - yes, for tastelessness and crudeness. But did it “incite to murder”?
Where Trump figure gets assassinated. If Trump’s tweet was “incitement to violence” then the play was “incitement to murder”.
And there is the deflection. That’s not what I asked. I asked if it was “incitement to murder”. You clearly don’t think it was. Then obviously Trump’s tweet was not “incitement to violence”.
… and there is the anticipated deflection, and a non-answer to the question asked.
Behavior? No. Is it supposed to?
It certainly put the idea out to the universe. I wish KG would have taken a minute to reconsider.
Any Trump’s tweets/statements that you wish he’d have taken a minute to reconsider?
No, it was a cautionary tale explaining why you should not assassinate your leaders, no matter how much you may dislike them. What part of that are you having trouble comprehending?
You are deflecting in the first place, trying to equivocate the president of the united states whom you voted for to that of some z-list actor with no power that is pretty well disowned.
You cannot defend president WTF’s actions, so you are deflecting them, trying to compare them to any possible equivalency you can find, but you are coming up very, very short.
I don’t know that anyone in this thread has said that Trump’s tweet about CNN was an “incitement to violence”, so you are playing with a straw man there. They have said that it is reprehensible, and a threat to the media, but no, not an incitement to violence.
CNN and other media sources are bleating that it is “incitement to violence” all over the place. Do you disagree?
Trump has the biggest advantage possible; he gets to send other people to die.
True. I was just watching it. That’s what some CNN talking heads are saying.
And they’re not wrong. It’s already happened.