In November 2020, Trump hired a former GOP gubernatorial candidate, Ken Block, to investigate claims of voter fraud and provide evidence that would stand up in court.
Block and his stats company reported back to Trump that they found no evidence of voter fraud that could have affected the results.
Trump ignored the report and kept saying the election was stolen.
Block has written an op-ed in USA Today, outlining his findings. Apparently a book is forthcoming as well.
We’re at a point where a lot of people don’t believe either of these things actually exist.
But their reasoning is horribly circular here. The boxes were made illegal in 2022 because Republicans argued that they were wide open to abuse by those who would steal the election, and what is the primary evidence that Trump uses to support the notion that they were open to abuse, that they were made illegal in 2022.
L’etat profond c’est moi!
When the only reasoning you have is either circular or moronic, you go with the circular.
The evidence clearly points to both.
Trump falsely claimed that his administration “would have started to pay down our debt” by selling U.S. energy to Europe and Asia, if not for the COVID-19 pandemic. One budget expert called the idea “baffling.”
He stated definitely that the coronavirus that causes COVID-19 originated in a lab, despite a lack of credible evidence.
Trump repeated many talking points we’ve fact-checked before, on taxes, immigration, the economy, abortion and military conflicts.
He just really doesn’t understand how international trade works, does he? “The US” doesn’t sell things to “other countries”. US based companies sell stuff to other companies in other countries.
The only way the US government makes money off this is if they impose export tariffs, or impose income taxes on the companies, both of which makes US exports less competitive over all, so if his goal was to “drive down the debt”, he’d be doing it at the cost of decreasing US exports.
Either that, or he was planning to nationalize the oil industries.
Alternatively (hear me out here), he’s a complete imbecile.
You made me think again of the lost flash drive thing on FOX.
Tucker Carlson made the claim that they had the goods on Biden – smoking gun documents – but they were sent in the mail and were now missing, and implied the deep state got to them.
When people started making fun of FOX for just mailing a flash drive instead of sending digitally on an encrypted channel, and not keeping backups, FOX revealed that they did in fact have a copy of the documents.
And, as we all know, the documents were so incriminating that we hear about them all the ever again. It’s not like Republicans more than 3 years later are still talking about trying to find evidence.
Within the past half-hour, I heard on MSNBC that 65% of entrance-polled Iowa Republican caucus goers believed the election was stolen. That’s going to be quite a biased survey, because only hardcore people are going to go out in this frigid weather.
Yeah that one number stuck out to me among all of the polling data MSNBC was running tonight in their coverage. It seemed high I think? But then I had to remind myself that this was the hardest of the hardcore conservative base with a lot of MAGAt’s in there not the general electorate or even Republicans nationwide. Or maybe I’m just giving us too much credit. Regardless I’m sure a general poll would show that number to be a lot lower. I don’t know what other current polling data shows but I’d imagine only TFG’s base truly believes that. So 30% or so? Still too f****** high.
This is from a Jan 4 article:
This roughly lines up with the Iowa number (2/3 of GOP voters believe 2020 was stolen).
The top-line number in that poll was 39% for Trump, which would mean your estimate is about right - 30% nation-wide believe the claim that Trump actually won in 2020.