After Obama released his Birth Certificate in 2008, there were a few reasons to remain in the “birther” camp:
You were a racist fucknugget who simply hated, HATED the idea of a black man in the Whitehouse.
You were a fucking clueless dork, who got all of their “news” from far-right sites run by douchebags who lied to you deliberately, knowing that you were too stupid to figure out the truth.
You were a deranged mentally ill sad piece of humanity, who believes every nutty conspiracy theory that floats by, because your brain is chemically damaged.
A “mountain of other evidence”? You mean a photocopy of his short-form birth certificate.
Considering what was out there before, for instance “A promotional booklet published by Barack Obama’s literary agents in 1991 states, “Barack Obama, the first African-American president of Harvard Law Review, was born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Hawaii.”” it seems to me it was a valid question and something that needed to be dealt with fully.
After the long form was released, most gave it up and moved on.
A) I don’t and didn’t think it was “racist” to question his qualifications to be president and B) there are any number of things I don’t agree with him on. Just because I’m going to vote for him doesn’t mean I stand by everything the man ever did and said. Just the gist of what he’s saying, and accomplishing, now. On the whole I agree with it.
I don’t recall saying any of that. I recall insinuating that some here aren’t all that quick on the uptake, and after repeatably answering the same questions over and over again, I was getting frustrated.
I mean his birth certificate, contemporary newspaper announcements from 2 different Hawaiian newspapers announcing his birth, statements by Hawaiian state officials confirming that he was born in Hawaii (and that his birth certificate was legitimate), and the statements of him and his family. Several journalists went to Hawaii and personally looked at and photographed his birth certificate on file in 2008 and publicized it.
That bullshit literary promotion (which was false, of course) didn’t come up until 2012, even after the long-form birth certificate was released. It wasn’t in the discussion at all in 2008. There was no shred of evidence he was born anywhere else in 2008.
Again, why didn’t you accept the mountain of evidence in 2008, including his birth certificate and statements from Hawaiian officials who confirmed state records?
Not Brietbart, which found that bullshit literary promotion thing in 2012 – long after even you say you were convinced. Why bring up a piece of bullshit like that from 2012 if you were convinced in 2011?
What reason was there to question his qualifications after 2008? There wasn’t a shred of evidence he was born anywhere else, and a mountain of proof he was born in 'Hawaii.
Why single out Obama, then? You didn’t question John McCain’s qualifications to be president; didn’t even bother to find out where he was born. Did Mitt Romney have to show you his birth certificate; and would a photocopy of the short form have been sufficient, or would you demand the long form from the state of his birth (Michigan, if you’re suddenly curious)? Have you seen Donald Trump’s birth certificate, Hillary Clinton’s, Mike Pence’s, Tim Kaine’s, Paul Ryan’s, Joe Biden’s? All those people have to meet the same qualifications as Obama, so why demand it only from him?
And please don’t say it was only an issue with Obama, because it was you, and people like you, who chose to make it an issue.
Because it was so damaging to the country – a huge portion of the electorate didn’t think he was a legitimate president for years, and many still don’t, and it’s entirely based on lies. It’s very bad for the country if millions don’t think the President (any President!) is legitimate because of lies spread about their birth, no matter their policies. I want to know why someone accepted those lies from '08 to '11 despite the overwhelming evidence he was born in Hawaii.
Obama didn’t do this either. He released a mountain of evidence for his birth when it was questioned in 2008. Why are you still spreading lies about him?
Because I’m racist, obviously. Just like I’m a sexist when it comes to being critical of Hillary.
Or it could be I was as curious as the others who were asking the question, wanting a definitive answer and wondering why that was so difficult to produce (ie the long form. Not birth announcements and photocopied records).
Was I right at the time? No. So what. It wasn’t a deciding factor in why I’d vote for or against Obama, back then. But I wasn’t going to then (or now) take the excuse that it’s because I’m a racist I ask the question, shut the fuck up, fool.
I didn’t say you were a racist. But if you bought those bullshit lies that had no evidence for 3 years then you’re an idiot. Same as people who buy the moon landing or 9/11 conspiracies.
Have you learned anything from this? Do you recognize how foolish you were being for giving any credence to all those evidence free lies?
No, no, being a racist was only ONE of the options I gave you above.
You could also have been a gullible fucking moron who believed the pack of lies that was shoveled at you after 2008, or you could have some kind of brain illness that makes you easily susceptible to insane conspiracy theories.
Can’t even say for sure the people pushing this shit were racists. They might simply have seen an easy way to backstab Obama. So, not so much racist as ruthless.
I’m sure republicans would have (and probably will soon) come up with some reason to pretend Hillary Clinton wasn’t eligible for the presidency had she won in 2008 as well. It might even make sense, to them.