No, you were right. That just doesn’t necessarily = “looking on them less kindly”.
Perhaps a trivial distinction.
I’m far less interested in this than in your opinions on Starving Artist’s view of the history of race and racism in America.
Complete and utter bullshit. I’ve personally talked to dozens of older black Americans about this, and heard from or read from hundreds more, and pretty much all of them say the exact opposite. Race was front and center every day of their lives they went in public for most of the 20th century. That’s how life was for black people through most of our history – every day they’re reminded that they’re considered inferior by most of society, by many of their neighbors, and even by the law, in many cases.
You’re just delusional on this. You’re incapable of seeing that life was massively, hugely different for black Americans than for you. It’s like you’re trying to talk about child birth with a dozen mothers who have, between them, had 50 children. It’s ludicrous.
Plenty in your life time wanted to conserve segregation and Jim Crow. Some even want those institutions to return, or at least for them to be legal again.
LOL. A single instance of lynching, or black church bombing, is “exponentially more agitation” than what goes on today. The hatred that drives those actions was far, far more common in the early and mid 20th century than it is today.
Murdering and raping and brutality, the vast majority of which in our history (including the 20th century) victimized black people, drove a wedge between races, not liberals like MLK Jr. and other Civil Rights activists fighting for equal treatment and equal opportunity.
“Racial agitation”, when investigated, appears to largely consist of finally calling out longstanding racism that has gone unchallenged (or at least unchallenged by anyone the people engaged in it cared about). It’s like criminals complaining that everything was fine until some busybody called the police and ruined everything.
From my rather limited observation of US politics and society, a goodly number of folks in the conservative camp like to tout the notion that racism is no longer a significant problem in the US. (At least, not since a fine, upstanding black man pulled himself up by his bootstraps and succeeded to the highest seat in the land, to the unanimous approval of all.)
I wonder what percentage of said folks overlaps with those who express “concern” that a mixed-race family might face “difficulties” from society.
You know it’s harder to dislike you when you do things like this?
Although not a resident of the US, I do generally identify as liberal in my political views.
It’s sobering to realize just what a horrible person I am.
Damn straight! John James Rambo wouldn’t lie to us.
Based on polls like this one:
in which approval for interracial marriage is significantly larger for black people than whites, I’m hopeful that the result in the other poll in which a larger percentage of blacks than whites found it “bad” was an outlier.
The pun or the concession?
Primarily the pun, but the concession sure doesn’t hurt.
:dubious: As you would put it, HAW HAW HAW. If you don’t like it when I draw a distinction between “a debunked urban legend about antiwar protesters routinely spitting on returning Vietnam vets just for being soldiers” and “undisprovable assertions that some Vietnam vet got spat on sometime for some reason”, you shouldn’t be occupying such a glass house of transparent evasions yourself.
What you said was “And now we have the issue of Confederate soldiers being brought up, as usual not by blacks but by would-be SJWs agitating on their behalf”. And then:
In other words, Starving Artist, when blacks protest against Confederate memorials without a mainstream national movement to back them up, you dismiss it as “a few small isolated incidents that occurred decades ago”. (Apparently you are under the illusion that the few protests I showed you cites for are the only black protests against Confederate memorials that ever happened, which of course is nonsense.)
And then when blacks protest against Confederate memorials with a mainstream national movement to back them up, you dismiss it as just “being stirred up by white SJWs”.
Tell me, Starving Artist, is there any possible way that black Americans can protest that would persuade you that they have agency and that their views matter? If blacks protest while the white majority mostly ignores their concerns, you dismiss them as insignificant and unimportant. Whereas if blacks protest while the white majority begins to seriously share their concerns, you dismiss them as unthinking dupes “being stirred up by white SJWs”.
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The reason I don’t drill down seeking exactness on the minutia related to the points I’m making is…wait for it…they don’t @$#%&* matter!
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When you’re telling lies about facts, it does “@$#%&*” matter.
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The subject of what happened at Harvard is that it’s an example of the ways that modern SJW-ism is seeking to create rather than eliminate racial segregation.
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Except that that’s total bullshit. The event in question, which people of all races were welcome to attend (hint: that’s not how racial segregation works), was about everybody in the community being able to celebrate the unique experience and achievements of black Harvard students.
Your freaking out about this is as bizarre as getting upset when a Norwegian Students’ Association invites their campus community to their Syttende Mai celebration, or the Ancient Order of Hibernians throws a community St Patrick’s Day party. Why does a happy and universally welcoming celebration of ethnic identity and heritage only strike you as threatening and “divisive” when the ethnicity in question happens to be black?
If you really want to encourage racial unity and solidarity, why don’t you try going to a school’s Black Commencement celebration and cheering for the students as they reflect on their experiences and celebrate their achievement? Contrary to what you imagine, it’s not a segregated event and not about promoting racial segregation.
When? Where, what airport? Army or Marine? What happened next? Which local news outlet reported on it? What did you do in response?
I know one guy who claimed to see it… but he’s a fucking liar anyway. He also pushes “Ayrabs dancing in New York streets after 9-11” and other things.
Simple solution: Go away. Find a group of like-minded folks on Stormfront.
That’s a weird desire.
I’ve heard older Whites who grew up in the South in the 1930s through 1950s say, “Well, a White man marrying a Black woman is better than a Black man marrying a White woman”. Too bad that survey didn’t enquire along that line.
That **is **a weird desire.