Trump won't rule out 3rd term

So you’re saying the Democratic candidate will win unanimously, then. :slight_smile: No election means no electoral votes for Dementia Donny or anyone else with an (R) attached to their name.

And are we just assuming that the populations of these states are just going to be OK with all elected officials from the governor down to assistant cemetery commissioner now being lifetime appointments?

I believe Trump will retire after the midterms with a health issue. He is at a pace of someone who is running out of time.

They’re not going to be “okay with it,” but what can they do? Trump stays in the White House (just for a “few weeks while we figure this shit out”) and Congress does nothing.

Trump is barely lucid as it is. He’s barely even in control of his own administration at this point - he’s focused on his ballroom and his buddies in Argentina and China while Stephen Miller and Russ Vought actually run the country. By January 2029 it’ll be surprising if he’s capable of uttering a complete sentence or recognizing the faces of people around him, let alone becoming a dictator.

The only reason anyone on the right is even humoring this “Trump 2028” nonsense is because they know he isn’t gonna be around for much longer and once he’s gone they’ll all be trying to prove to his cult of personality as it dissolves around them that they were the one most loyal servant he had and deserve to be his rightful successor.

I can imagine Trump completely not caring about policy or public affairs anymore. He might try to reboot The Apprentice and film it in the situation room, or sell licenses for an official chain of White House hotels, or whatever he can sucker someone into giving him money for. But I can’t see him resigning the presidency, ever, and walking away from the prestige and ego boost it gives him.

Meeting separately in their own state capitals are the proceedings that they hold.

All these ‘Trump can’t do anything, the states have the power’ claims are, at this point, bizarre. Who has been sending state National Guard troops into blue states, again…the blue-state governors? No?

Trump has the military. He has his secret police force (ICE) which is due for a huge budget increase in 2026. They can buy as many missiles as they like.

The supposed helplessness of the Trump Regime is a fairy tale that no one will be alive to tell to their children, if blue states attempt to assert their rights. In this regime, might makes right.

Let me know when ICE starts launching Tomahawks into Sacramento to prevent the electors from meeting.

And you believe that they will be willing to give up power in 2028?

Why would they? Patriotism? A respect for the Constitution? Their deep commitment to adherence to the rule of law?

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I don’t believe it’s their decision to make.

They’ll meet. And be ignored.

“We made it very clear that the actual election results, the ones that will matter, will be the ones in the upcoming special post-emergency election.”

They’re gonna have to find 60 votes to do something about that law they passed three years ago that specifically prevents them from doing any such thing, then.

The problem with this approach is that Trump can’t run as vice president because the VP candidate must be eligible for the presidency itself - meaning, the 2-term limit against POTUS also prevents Trump from being a VP candidate.

Or ignore the law completely. Who’s going to stop them?

To be clear, I’m not saying this will happen. But I am saying it’s possible. More likely, he’ll be dead and this discussion will be moot. It’s also possible that he says, “it’s been a good four years, but I’m term-limited out of another 4.” But I wouldn’t bet on that.

I mean, if we’re gonna say that Congress just declares “Elections don’t count, laws don’t count, Trump is now God Emperor for life and there’s nothing anyone can do about it”, there’s also nothing stopping, say, JB Pritzker from declaring “The Republic of Illinois no longer recognizes the sovereignty of the United States within its borders”.

Then you’ve got a civil war on your hands, and the techbros that own Congress these days aren’t gonna be happy about that, because mass death and destruction tends to be bad for their profit margins.

That has been discussed on this board many times. He is at least 35 years old, 14 year resident of the US, and a natural-born citizen. That makes him eligible. He cannot be elected to the Presidency, true, but he can become President despite the 22nd Amendment. I think what clinches that analysis is that a member here found out Congress deliberately changed serve as President to elected President meaning they intentionally left in the loophole.

I’ll remind you that @Smapti is the poster who insisted that the Supreme Court and/or Congress would definitely reign in any excesses of Trump, and that Trump couldn’t deport immigrants without extensive due process. So he has no truck with the notion that Donald Trump could, say, fire a bunch of federal employees and dismantle an agency without Congressional action, or demolish the East Wing of the White House in preparation for building an unapproved addition without going through all of the myriad of reviews and approvals that this kind of major construction on a Federal property and US National Parks site would require. You may gauge his perspicaciousness based upon your own knowledge of recent events as you see fit.

I guess you’re not really following the “techbros” of late, but the rage among them is buying/constructing underground bunkers that are stocked with Prepper MegaPack #4 (don’t forget a spare water chip), and their Witch-King Leader Peter Thiel is prophesying literal Biblical Apocalypse to interested crowds.

Well, this is what you and Steve Bannon seem to believe based upon an ‘originalist’ interpretation that ignores the 12th Amendment which states: “But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.” and the 22nd Amendment which makes it clear that former Presidents are ineligable to run as Vice President: “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice, and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.”

So credible reading of the Constitution could allow for Donald Trump to be elected Vice President and then advance via some kind of arcane castle maneuver, although there is the argument that he could pawn-promote upward via being inserted somewhere lower in the Presidential line of succession and then convincing everybody above him to resign. But let’s be honest; this kind of political chicanery isn’t really to the taste of a post-06 January 2021 Donald Trump who clearly feels regret that he belatedly followed the direction to talk back the rioters that he previously excited into an insurrectionist furor, and would just claim that any election results that don’t favor him or states who refuse to make him eligible to appear on the ballot are committing fraud, just like all of the other ‘strongman’ leaders like Putin and Orban whom he venerates do.

And if you don’t think that a Republican-dominated Congress would follow him over that cliff then I invite you to look at how they are continuing the longest government shutdown despite broad anger by their constituents to the point that despite all of the partisan gerrymandering and voter suppression the GOP has engaged in over the last quarter century they’re likely going to have to engage in a broad pattern of election denial to stay in power, for which many are already laying the groundwork. And while I still hold out some hope that even for this severely bent Supreme Court a complete abridgment of the 22nd Amendment is a bridge too far, it is also clear that Trump regards the Court as a useful fig leaf that has been disappointingly noncompliant in a handful of embarrassing instances and whose views could be ignored if he just had access to a force of politically-aligned agents who didn’t have the strictures of the UCMJ and habituated to not obeying illegal directions (at least, in public view), hence the press to expand DHS and turn Immigration and Customs Enforcement into a massive paramilitary organization with little external oversight.

Trump definitely intends to serve a third term—he’s not printing and selling hats and shirts with “Trump 2028” as a joke or to promote one of his idiot sons into the role—but it remains to be seen if he’ll even live that long, or if other inside movements will find the impetus to dispense with him and advance directly to full autocracy, treating elections as kabuki suitable for framing or wrapping fish depending on how well it supports their agenda.

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This is what I would expect if it gets to a point that elections are called off or the Maggots won’t vacate the premises. Look at the raw anger being shown toward ICE. I find it hard to believe that out of the millions of people that oppose all this bullshit, there isn’t some significant amount of folks that will put up a fight. Maybe it will be a fool’s errand and they’ll be gunned down in the street, but no way is everyone just going to sit idly by.

He’s at a pace of someone who understands the probability of one of the houses flipping mid-term.

And I think sitting back and thinking that things will take care of themselves like that is either lazy, or a way to disarm those that oppose him. It is a wonder the American public can sit at all, considering the number of times this lame idea has bitten them in the ass.

His plan is to get a war going somewhere so he has an excuse to cancel the election. He’s tried Canada, Greenland, Venezuela, and now Columbia.

Losing in 2020, messed things up with Afghanistan. He made a deal with the Taliban. In 2021, early in his second term, he was going to stiff them.