That was suppose to be funny?
By “inconvenienced”, you apparently mean “detained or deported”. That’s a pretty major “inconvenience”, especially for somebody who has left their former home because the US already promised them entry and now may be homeless or even in danger if that promise is arbitrarily revoked.
And some of the people still detained (after more than two days, which also sounds like something more than mere “inconvenience”) are legal permanent residents of the US: green card holders who have lived here for years.
This ban was not only an intrinsically bad thing to do, but clumsily done in the worst possible way with the maximum amount of disruption, chaos and loss of respect. A stupid plan, stupidly executed.
Appalling, but not in the least surprising.
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Meanwhile in the real world Soro’ NGO’s are attempting to overthrow Hungry,
I hope Sessions brings he and his son’s up on sedition charges. 
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This is apparently the “alternative facts” crowd’s attempt to spin the current crackdown by authoritarian Hungarian premier Viktor Orban on Hungarian NGOs who have dared to criticize his right-wing policies. Some of those NGOs receive funding from Hungarian-born George Soros’ Open Society Foundation, but Orban has also been threatening NGOs that receive funding from Norway and other foreign sources.
Evidently, arfurvirus believes that supporting an organization that funds human-rights NGOs in Hungary makes Soros somehow liable to indictment on sedition charges in the United States. arfurvirus’s understanding of facts is evidently on a par with his grasp of spelling and grammar. :rolleyes:
:dubious: Thanks for the intervention, but Airman doesn’t have to discuss this with me if he doesn’t want to. Up to him.
We use green cards as a recruiting tool in Iraq and Afghanistan. Work for us, risk your family, and we will take care of you. Our people there need this to recruit reliable translators and intelligence. Can’t say I feel real good about that, but if they need it, they need it.
So long as they are there on our dime, under our flag and wearing our uniform, and they need to be able to promise that for their own safety, there just isn’t any argument. Also they need to know they are telling the truth, because they all have to sleep at night and a lot of them have to shave.
Cites? Google “Iraqi translators Muslim Ban” and take your pick. How do I know? Because I heard it and couldn’t friggin’ believe we would do that, so had to look it up.
I wasn’t sure if it was the lack of language ability or WTF you tried to say that proves you are stupid. Finally, I realized it is both.
Trump agrees with you that he isn’t stupid.
He’s narrow minded and short-sighted enough; he’s not the kind of guy who says “and make sure we warn everybody involved”. But the minions who actually got it done? Yep, from those I certainly believe that they did it on purpose. Among other things, giving unclear instructions provides information about who has the bollocks to ask for clarification.
Jesus, how many times do I have to cite this to freakin’ dimwits in the same thread?
Just because the Tantrum-in-Chief is whining, “I just used Obama’s list” doesn’t mean it’s true, and it certainly means you shouldn’t buy into it and parrot it without checking it first.
Haven’t you dumbfucks gotten it through your head yet that the connection between Donald J. Trump and the truth is incidental at best? And that the same is true of his whole in-crowd? Bannon, Flynn, Sessions, Stephen Miller - these aren’t people who give a good goddamn about what’s true and what’s not. They’re rabble-rousers. And what does that make you?
That would be it.
And he’s got to reach back more than 40 years to find the other side doing the same thing. Sheesh.
And Robert Byrd was in the KKK once upon a time, so Nazi-friendly white nationalists like Steve Bannon are A-OK today, I guess. :mad:
Just showed up on The Guardian timeline:
I wouldn’t have put it the same way as Banquet Bear did (I’m absolutely sure the Airman can take care of himself), but I wonder about the vigorous pushback against ‘voter apathy’ as a contributor to Clinton’s loss.
Isn’t it pretty clear that there was comparatively* lower turnout from typically Democratic groups in the critical electoral swing states? Whether that was actually due to “apathy” -or complacency, or scandal fatigue or even voter suppression- is beside the point.
The single most important thing the Democratic party needs to do going forward is to get Democratic voters into the voting booths. Sure, there are other critical things, but if enough eligible voters had cast ballots in November we wouldn’t have a President Donald J. Trump right now. The marginal error in most of the polling was due to the difficulty in predicting “likely” voters, not in gauging the preference of “eligible” voters.
*“Comparatively” as compared to 2008 and 2012, as a percentage and not absolute numbers
Nope. The person you need to help is yourself, until you get a clue about the difference between reality and fantasy. (Hint: If Trump or one of his minions says it, it should be presumed by default to be an alternative fact.)
As a general rule, administration statements should never be cited as evidence of anything, and that was true before Trump. White HOuse spokesman spin, they don’t tell the truth. Their statements were never up to the standards of this board and should never be cited except to prove that they said what they said.
I’ve lived here over 40 years and i still don’t have my free socialist healthcare.
I am not a huge fan of Sally Yates, but kudos to her for standing up to Trump on the “immigration” ban. And, once again, Trump shows his thin skinned, 2 year mental state by whining that she somehow “betrayed” him for standing up for the Constitution. One less grownup with a spine for Trump to deal with.
As noted by **marshmallow **in post #406
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My IQ is one of the highest — and you all know it! Please don’t feel so stupid or insecure; it’s not your fault.
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“I have no idea [of my IQ score]. People who boast about their IQ are losers.”
- Stephen Hawking (In 2004)
Kudos for disobeying your President? And most legal experts agree that the President is acting quite legally and that the stay order by the federal judge won’t stand up to scrutiny.
As for all the executive orders it’s reminiscent of a recent incumbent.
You live by the sword, you die by the sword.
If you’re the AG, you don’t listen to “most legal experts”, you do what you think is legal and she was not sure the order was legal and wouldn’t defend it. It’s time you worshippers of the orange dick stopped trying to defend everything your Fuhrer does by stretching similarities to Obama’s actions beyond all recognition.
I was just listening to that clip, and I’ve got a slightly more complete transcription (video here):
Oh, the irony!
Of course, I’m sure that in Sessions’ mind, that standard should apply only to people serving in Democratic Administrations, but that when a Republican is President, subordinates should damn well fall in line like they’re supposed to.
Why, do you have a problem with what Sessions said? 
That’s silly. Every President issues Executive orders, just like every Congress passes laws.
You might as well say that because I wear clothes, I shouldn’t have anything critical to say about the clothes anyone else wears.