It’s just been pointed out to me that Obama banned refugees from Cuba, ending the “wet-foot, dry-foot” policy; I don’t recall anything being said here - not a peep.
Cubans could still apply for Visas, they were never banned or stopped. We just stopped letting them in wholesale when they showed up on our shores.
Rather than being a outright restriction on their immigration, Cuban immigrants simply lost their special status.
You are right that you probably didn’t hear much about it here. We tend not to cry to much when people lose extra privelges that others may not have.
True, Obama ended the “wet-foot, dry-foot” policy, but could you provide a cite that this bans refugees from Cuba?
My Google-fu has been iffy this morning, so I’ve had to piece this together from multiple websites (I guess because the change of policy is so recent, and everybody’s been distracted by His Orangeness), but as best as I can tell, this just takes away one of the advantages that Cuban refugees had relative to other refugees. Now, just like refugees from any other country, they won’t be accepted as refugees just because they set a foot on U.S. soil.
ETA: Ninja’d by Mr. Miskatonic.
Cover it pretty well.
Just yesterday someone pointed out to me that the moon was only a few thousand years old.
It’s pretty recent (just a few weeks ago, IIRC) – if there’s no thread, than start one.
I swear to God, this is exactly how Trump thinks - like a 7 year old. He seems to think that really, the president just has to give an order, and then it will be done, just like in the movies.
If the president wants the bad guys captured, he just orders his generals to come with a plan. And if they can’t then the president calls in the X-men, or other secret sooper-heros, and the job is done.
Trump seems to think that the ONLY REASON that Americans don’t have cheap, plentiful healthcare for all, or that all the bad terrorists are gone, or that inner cities are not bastions of peace is that previous presidents JUST DIDN’T WANT IT. Otherwise they would have just ordered it so.
Trump is a small child who thinks that he’s living in a movie.
That’s because they haven’t been banned. “Dry foot” was a special status given to Cubans that other refugees such as Haitians didn’t have. The change in policy was in keeping with the new relationship between the US and Cuba.
Just a little while ago, I got a phone call, and Rachel From Card Services pointed out to me that I could reduce my interest rate.
Is that person’s position that we should reinstate “wet foot/dry foot” for Cubans and all other refugees? Or is it that Cubans should have a different policy than every other country - and if so, why?
If it’s the former, that’s an interesting idea and it is definitely a change in the conversation. But I doubt that’s what the person who pointed it out was thinking.
Yep, and as a Salvadoran American that is still waiting for 2 years for his wife to come to the USA (the legal way) I can tell you that I reacted to the news about the Cubans by saying: welcome to my world, pals!
Good one, thank you.
Hey, it’s such a small price to pay for security — 75-year-old legal permanent resident of the U.S. dies after being barred from entering U.S. for medical treatment — Detroit Man Says His Ill Mother, A Green Card Holder, Died Due To Travel Ban - TPM – Talking Points Memo
Isn’t that executive overreach? I don’t know if you even* can* make that regulation (or two regulations, I guess) within either statute or constitutional law. It sounds absurd.
All it would do is force the government to remove two (or four) regulations under Trump’s ridiculous “lose two to add one” rule.
And that’s probably the real point. Make a rule, remove two (or four); get it shut down by courts; complain about courts; make a new rule (or three), remove two (or six); complain about the lack of good rules in particular (which you are exacerbating), and at the same time the (ostensible) excess of rules (or “job-killing regulations”); blame the courts for making you write and rewrite so many rules (in fights you started). Reaganism on acid.
The “Party Of Life”, ladies and gentlemen…
I’m sure this argument is profoundly ignorant, but I’m having trouble finding the words to explain why. It’s a dizzyingly puerile bit of sophistry. I had to step back from it a bit.
If the administration thought that were the case, the travel ban would be a sledgehammer against a mosquito. You tear up the pavement, and the insect flies away.
And this specific threat (which doesn’t exist, and was not the cause, per Rudy’s claims and Trump’s campaign promises) justified Trump’s behavior how? He banned Iranian-Americans. How many Iranian-Americans are in ISIS or al Qaeda? There was no operational reason to name these seven countries together if it were forestalling a specific threat. Iran is less likely to be an alternate vector of an unknown ISIS agent than is Turkey or Jordan,.
Well, more to the point, the State Department has a lot of tools.
But apparently somebody told the new cabal that Jack Bauer is a Canadian socialist.
I suspect that was part of “normalizing relations” with Havana. There’s not a corollary to that in Trump’s [del]MUSLIM [/del]TRAVEL BAN. If anything, Trump seems likely to add embargoes, not drop them.
And that’s precisely why nothing was said here. It was a perfectly reasonable thing to do in light of our new relationship with Cuba. You got a problem with that?
Thank God that Dear Leader Trump is protecting everyone fromterrorist 11 month old babies. One never knows what they’re up to. Good think this potential terrorist was separated from his mother and held in custody, otherwise he might have killed us all.
No, I won’t be travelling in or through the United States in the near future. You have a megalomaniac president enacting knee-jerk orders without giving them any thought, in conjunction with brain-dead enforcement officers who seem to follow orders like automatons.
It’s just far too uncertain and dangerous a place to travel at the moment. I’ll put it on a list of places to avoid out of safety concerns, next to North Korea and Somalia.
Turns out the guy was lying - his mother died on January 22, five days before the ban went into effect.
As Atrios said, “There are enough horrible consequences of Trump without making things up.” Indeed. The truth more than suffices. This crap is not helpful.