News of agencies cutting staff, services being curtailed, etc. are all over the board, popping up in threads in this forum, MPSIMS and in Elections (primarily) and it’s getting hard for me to remember where I saw what, so I thought a thread with a catchy and historically accurate title might help us all to consolidate events and our thoughts on them.
There are reports that the military is looking at re-directing money meant for Puerto Rico, still devastated more than a year after Hurricane Maria. It is looking more and more likely that the lack of services will soon be actively hurting American citizens.
I predicted in another thread that this shutdown would last 1-2 months, but that I wouldn’t be at all surprised for it to last much longer.
How long will the American people put up with the lack of services we are all about to experience?
How long will the American people put up with a president who actively harms them? Who lies to them? Who steals from them?
This is Trump’s Shutdown: every bad thing that happens is his fault and no one else’s.
ETA: What a fucking jackass he is. Just a complete fucking asshole. 100% a dick.
As I keep sayin, mate. We’re going to have to go through hell…before we can get to heaven.
That’s a fact. Keep whistlin past the graveyard and cursing my name if y’all wish, but this is where we’re headed.
What I want everyone to remember is that we’re past the point of just a normal correction, a normal adjustment at the ballot box. This country needs to get shocked in the balls. It needs to get angry. It needs to be pissed off. I don’t see that happening when we’re at full employment. I see it happening when we’re standing in line at soup kitchens, fighting in the streets over loaves of bread, and veterans are rioting over not getting their retirement. That’s not my prediction…that’s our history. History will repeat itself.
I’m getting increasingly angry at the Senate and congress for letting this continue. My stance isn’t that they should give in and give him the money, but that he needs to be impeached and indicted for extortion. I also feel strongly that our federal workers should NOT be furloughed or work without pay. It should be congress and the senate who are working without pay until this is resolved.
The other day at work, I was trying to find the commercial description of a light bulb ( ie 7w G40 LED Warm Glow) based on an uninformative manufacturer model number ( ie PHILIPS 1234567890 ). I was trying to purchase a bulb based on a test report that only referenced the model number. I thought it would be easy but none of the commercial listings referenced the model number. So I googled the model number and found a site that purported to contain a cross-reference table.
The site was a government site though, and a banner on the site said the information on it is not available during the shutdown. So I had to buy the most likely candidate and test it myself.
One thing is certain: Trump supporters will blame Democrats for this. Even if they suffer as a result of this, they’ll blame Democrats. Trump supporters, as is quite visible on this board, are not the sharpest spoons in the drawer. Shit, Republican lawmakers and then run of the mill Republican voters will by and large blame Democrats for this. The idea that anything on the Republican side of politics is dependent on making sense is long gone, America.
Because the government is shut down. Have you not heard this? Even the topic of this thread is called “Trump’s shutdown.”
Government contractors aren’t getting paid. Therefore, if you have a contract with the government to supply, say $50,000/week in air traffic controllers to whatever airport(s), you’re not getting that $50k this week. Meaning that either:
Your employees go unpaid, or
You eat the payroll cost until you get paid
I mean, seriously, Will: How do you not know this?
I assume he is assuming complete privatization of air traffic control. So, I guess, the airlines pay the controllers directly. Not sure how that works - if different companies have contracts in different airports, how do they talk? And if Southwest has a contract with company A, and United with company B, how does that work? Maybe two companies both put up a tower in the same airport (competition is good, ya know). And then fight over who gets to land their flight next?
No taxation without representation you mean? Because taxes are still being withheld from my checks, even though services are suspended. Oh, and the majority of Americans don’t want the stupid wall and elected representatives accordingly. Only their will cannot be expressed in Congress because now no votes are allowed in the Senate, not even on a CR that passed unanimously last month. So yeah, no representation.
My thought this morning is that Trump and the GOP expect US to serve Them, when it is supposed to be the other way around.
Assume that he is. This isn’t the thread for that, this is the thread to discuss real-world implications of Trump’s shutdown, not fantasy island crap found in The Virtue of Selfishness.
ETA: Sorry, Folacin, the attitude above isn’t directed at you.
