I must have missed the part in Gandhi’s biography where Gandhi finally decided non-violence was for suckers and beat some colonial Brit with a baseball bat. 
And if the police stop you and enter your vehicle and you take out a crow bar to attack them, then when they gun you down like a dog, well, sucks to be you, no? Your statement here is ridiculous since it doesn’t take into account any context (which presumably you don’t know about, since I’m certainly were weren’t trying to be deliberately provocative…right?).
It is a shame that reality doesn’t conform to your little statement here, because obviously your reality is so much neater and more black and white than, you know, actual reality.
-XT
Really?
What does your distortion of such basic facts say about the reliability of your argument?
Yeah thats something you would NEVER do. Puhlease.
You never had a choice before. But I still wouldn’t expect you to throw yourself on the charity and mercy of “the world”
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Already shown: that picture is uncited, unsourced and gets its claims from a blog site that did not cite or source its claims either but simply copied down alleged news headlines from two stations and “other news services”. The group that produced the map is a highly unreliable source as they identify all of Israel as “occupied Palestine”.
To say nothing of the fact that I was responding to a claim that, in context, defined the fighting as something that was reducing entire areas, with no mitigation, to rubble. As such I pointed out that the actual fighting that had actually rubbled some limited areas did not touch the north. If it helps, think of the fact as “The north was not touched [by the type of violence were are currently discussing]”
In any case I’m not sure how much of the tangent is closed by moderator action and whether the verboten tangent is the totality of damage to Lebanon from the war or merely what he meant by his claims that the totality of Lebanon with no exception had been “flattened”.
In either case, blargh.
Yeah the account from the Al Jazeera reporter is kinda different than the one from the one from the Iesraeli reporter you cite.
Not true at all.
This is the account. It is very brief and does not touch on any of the issues raised.
The claim never was the whole area was reduced to rubble. The claim was Lebanon was flattened. As already demonstrated with examples from both sides of the Atlantic, this is an informal idiom (and also an exaggeration, which inexplicably you think is a competing concept) in English meaning bomb-struck, which any native English speaker should be able to parse in context. As I said, you have to be pretty God damned dumb to think I was implying the whole of Lebanon and Manchester were stamped out of existence, as if they’d been hit by a nuclear weapon.
Again: enough with the flattening. Both of you were told to drop it a page ago. I’m not sure why you found it necessary to revive the hijack, FinnAgain, but I expect neither of you will post about it again.
If a cop breaks the law to arrest you do you think you should go along peacefully? What if youa re a young black man in the south during Jim Crow?
That’s assuming you are somewhere where the police have authority. If I’m in the middle of, say, Mexico and, say, the Dutch police jump me I think I’d be well within my rights to fight them.
The point being, this wasn’t in Israel or Israeli territorial waters. The Israelis had no authority.
What on Earth are you talking about?
I wasn’t the one who revived it.
And I’ll point out that I responded to Damuri’s mention of the hijack by pointing out what I was actually responding to and then indicated that I wasn’t going to continue the discussion after clearing up his mistake.
Is THAT the way self defense works? So you mean these commandoes are NOT like police who are exercising their police power?
I can just imagine IDF commandoes surrendering to a bunch of guys with kitchen knives and sticks.
No its not evil, it is incompetence sprouting from paranoia.
We’ve gon over the legalities of this already. So far, it would appear that the Israelis were “legally” enforcing a blockade.
Fine: Damuri Ajashi dug it up in the process of responding to posts from 24 hours ago, and you resumed discussion of what “flattening” is or isn’t even though a few hours ago you said you wouldn’t do that.
It didn’t work, since Capt. Riddley’s Shooting Party "had " to respond to your response. You, Damuri Ajashi and Capt. Ridley’s Shooting Party are not to post about this tangent again. Any of you.
In international waters ships are not open game, they fly a flag.
I read that the other ships did not have many people on them, just supplies. All the protesters were on this ship.
Israel is the sovereign power in their own waters.
Coriander?
So the guys with kitchen knives were picking a fight with the IDF commandoes? Now THATS interesting.
What do you think that they were doing, exactly? Advancing on someone brandishing a knife is a symbol of what, exactly, in your interpretation? Clubbing someone with a crowbar or steel pipe is a symbol of what, exactly, in your interpretation?
Cites have already been provided showing that you are wrong. Blockade runners are not immune from a blockade simply by flying a flag.
See, I don’t like this. I don’t see the point of refusing spices and chocolate just for the sake of refusing their import. I also don’t see these are luxuries , either. Both spices and chocolate have health benefits - mainly as antioxidants. Some spices are actually good for you like black pepper or curcumin (I can detail why, but I don’t want to derail the thread unless asked). Diamonds, Ipods, and cologne are luxuries - chocolate and spices are not. Can someone give a sane explanation on why coriander should be barred from Gaza? Please?
- Honesty