of course you’d have to be insane to believe a word they say
They after all said for days on end they were not using white phosphorus didn’t they in 2009. Major Avital Leiberman for one bare faced lied on numerous channels both Israeli and International.
It would at least be an improvement over you posting completely unsupported nutter statements. I am sure there is an Arabic speaker on the board that can look into things.
Listen mate, this is an English language site. If you can’t play to it’s standards, you’re just making a fool out of yourself and the positions you want to support.
as far as I am aware and English is not my mother tongue a cite is something you quote from? yes?
So as I said before I was making my own statements about the news here. They are not quotes from a source. If you want the source then you can Google the topic.
That was 3 or 4 years ago. In recent months, Turkey’s actions have been much more hostile, including the action of the flotilla. That was not the only recent action. As I previously said, Turkey appears to be attempting to be a regional leader and perhaps start a new Ottoman empire.
Quite possibly. Numerous times pro-Palestinians have lied or staged fake deaths. The name of the recent ship is the name of a lady who, unfortunately, was run over by an Israeli tank. The version given by “witnesses” was that the tank deliberately ran her over. Real evidence showed that she ran in front of the tank and then slipped. The most infamous case was the staged “death” of a Palestinian lad. The paparazzi and the media were all over that picture of the dying boy, held in the arms of his bereaved father. The boy was later shown to be alive and well.
Netanyahu says that the Israeli soldiers were met by live ammo.
But I waste my time posting that quote since obviously Netanyahu is a liar and dishes out nonsense.
You are wasting your time if your mind is so closed that you think that Netanyahu won’t lie to achieve a particular result. The Israelis have ample motiviation to lie about what happened which is why they jammed communications, confiscated everything that everyone owned so the wouldn’t be able to show photographic, video or audio evidence of what happened. If he wasn’t lying and the IDF had nothing to hide, why would they confiscate everything? They basically robbed every passenger.
There are some great links on the flotilla attack where 20 people were killed on Utube. There is one with the transmissions between the Israeli navy and the flotilla that in one part someone said you should all go back to Auschwitz. There is also footage looking down on the ship and people being shot.
The US interviews are calling Israel a Crazy country out of control. Or something similar? The braodcasts are also available to watch. The US Isn’t saying much and the peace talks between Israel and the US may be canceled. The Israeli’s are saying they had to protect themselves and the Palestinians are saying unarmed vessels carrying humanitarian aid were attacked.
Listen to the transmissions video and you get a better idea of what happened. The flotilla was told repeatedly to stop but it didn’t. The UN talks spent all last week ironing out the detail of this so I don’t see why they attacked?
The odder it gets (various videos being edited or cut, differing speech vs transcripts - misquotes, etc) , the less I believe the “official” version. If someone is telling the truth, they don’t have to “doctor” or spin the so called evidence, do they.
I don’t understand what you’re saying here, are you saying that because it appears that pro-Palestinian media have doctored the video that you think Israel must have too? 'Cause that doesn’t make much sense…
Furthermore, from a cultural point of view, weak and transparent lies from the like of Netanyahu, Oren, Krauthammer & etc are a cultural or, group marker. It is a way of identifying another as an ‘evil-cult’ jew. These lies signify "my commitment to Israel at all costs is so complete I am happy to publicly sacrifice any personal integrity I might have had’.
So if you are wondering how on earth anyone believes any of what they say, they don’t believe it, not a word. It is not mere indifference to whether what they say is true. It is a display of pride in zealotry for Israel and the power to have childish lies appear in publications read by adults. The perception of Jewish solidarity is all.
The first one is the big lie and all else follows. As identified by Greenwald:
As adults many people brought up with this doctrine are able to overcome it, but some aren’t. Glad to have helped.