Two guys from Texas plan to conquer and enslave their own sex island

[Babale]

@Heracles

@Dorjan

IMO this was a self-correcting problem that should have been left alone.

I understand the sentiment, but I don’t think Haïti needs any more bloodshed. And there’s no way to tell how the Andrew Tate / Charlie Kirk crowd would have reacted if these idiots had been killed “by an angry mob” in Haïti, and how high it would have escalated in Washington

Not to mention that, since the US Government has a monopoly on violence within the United States, it is the US government’s responsibility to stop American citizens from going out and attacking foreign countries. Intentionally failing to do so is basically tantamount to attacking the foreign country ourselves.

[peccavi]

@Horatius

It was more like this movie, in their heads, anyways.

This was the movie that came to mind:

[Dorjan]

@Babale

Not to mention that, since the US Government has a monopoly on violence within the United States, it is the US government’s responsibility to stop American citizens from going out and attacking foreign countries. Intentionally failing to do so is basically tantamount to attacking the foreign country ourselves.

That’s a rather large leap in logic. The government does not have a responsibility to prevent its citizens from breaking the law abroad.

[Atamasama]

@Heracles

And there’s no way to tell how the Andrew Tate / Charlie Kirk crowd would have reacted if these idiots had been killed “by an angry mob” in Haïti, and how high it would have escalated in Washington.

I expect swift canonization would have been in order.

[griffin1977]

@Dorjan

That’s a rather large leap in logic. The government does not have a responsibility to prevent its citizens from breaking the law abroad

Not all laws. But the government does have a responsibility to try and still one of it citizens carrying out an act of aggression on a foreign country as a private endeavor. Primarily because no one will believe it was just a private endeavor and not supported by the US government.

[Dorjan]

Even with THIS administration, I highly doubt anyone would think that two yahoos from Texas attempting to “invade” an island in Haiti were doing it at the behest of the US Government.

[griffin1977]

@Atamasama

I expect swift canonization would have been in order

I’m not ruling it out even now. Rape and abuse of Haitians are two of the GOPs most cherished traditions

[Great_Antibob]

@xtenkfarpl

There is historical precedent, of course: a small number of spanish invaders were able to conquor or dominate populous south american civilzations, temporaily at least.

Well, yes, but nearly all the population of Gonâve, rather than these two clowns, are descended from those invaders

[Elmer_J.Fudd]

@Great_Antibob

Well, yes, but nearly all the population of Gonâve, rather than these two clowns, are descended from those invaders

Um…the conquistadors were Africans enslaved by the French?

[Ancient_Nerd]

@Der_Trihs

In an entirely different era, with the aid of apocalyptic levels of disease. It’s a lot easier to defeat massively superior numbers when most of them drop dead first.

Modern (for the time) weapons made a big difference too.

[Great_Antibob]

@Elmer_J.Fudd

Um…the conquistadors were Africans enslaved by the French?

Are you claiming the people currently living on Hispaniola are descended purely from African slaves? None at all from the French or Spanish (who did most of the enslaving) who were also there at the time they achieved independence? Or the native population who lived there before them?

While their ancestry may be predominantly African for the most part, it’s not exclusively so. Though I would have little pity for anybody who actually thought they could roll in and treat the current residents as primitive natives to be exploited. Maybe I’d even enjoy a bit of schadenfreude at the welcome they’d likely receive

[Reply]

@griffin1977

But the government does have a responsibility to try and still one of it citizens carrying out an act of aggression on a foreign country as a private endeavor.

Aren’t there entire companies built to do just that, enact non-governmental violence abroad, often with implicit or explicit government blessing?

[DavidNRockies]

“If William Walker had never gotten beyond the 7th Grade…”

Also see:

Filibuster (military)

Don’t miss the section, “Masculinity and filibustering.”

[griffin1977]

@Reply

Aren’t there entire companies built to do just that, enact non-governmental violence abroad, often with implicit or explicit government blessing?

Yup that’s the main reason the US government has responsibility to stop private citizens carrying acts of aggression against foreign nations. As otherwise it will be assumed by everyone that they have the implict or explicit blessing of the US government

[Spiderman]

@DavidNRockies

Is there a disease that you’re supposing these two Lone Star MENSA gentlemen are not carrying??

I’m guessing anything sexually transmitted

[Babale]

@Dorjan

That’s a rather large leap in logic. The government does not have a responsibility to prevent its citizens from breaking the law abroad.

It absolutely does have a responsibility to stop it’s citizens from invading foreign countries.

[Babale]

@Dorjan

Even with THIS administration, I highly doubt anyone would think that two yahoos from Texas attempting to “invade” an island in Haiti were doing it at the behest of the US Government.

Because even with THIS administration the idea that America would just shrug and allow its citizens to sail off to invade another country is completely unbelievable.

[Northern_Piper]

@snowthx

AIUI the native civilizations had armies and strategy and discipline, but metal weapons such as swords, knives, and of course muskets, made the local military no match. And

Plus horses.

[snowthx]

Armored horses, and large, aggressive dogs - neither of which had ever been seen before. The men were on the horses, and the fearsome dogs obeyed commands - this made the average soldier appear as a God.

[needscoffee]

@Spiderman

@DavidNRockies

Is there a disease that you’re supposing these two Lone Star MENSA gentlemen are not carrying??-

I’m guessing anything sexually transmitted

Lol!!