In this post, Kang and Kodos parodied an Exprix post and thread was closed. I have no complaints with the closing of the thread. It clearly violated the rules recently posted by Lynn in that there were no links to the post that was being parodied.
Before the thread was closed, Coldfire gave Kang and Kodos a chance to keep the thread opened:
I will submit that it was generous to even give him that chance but if you’re going to give someone a chance, two hours does not seem to be a reasonable amount of time. How the hell do you even know that he’s going to check the board within that timeframe?
That’s it. I’m not too upset about this but two hours strikes me as a bit unfair.
I don’t understand your point. If it was generous not to close the thread outright, then it was generous to give him a two-hour window. It would have been generous to give him ten minutes. And Coldie posted his ultimatum only an hour after the OP, so it would have been a reasonable assumption that Kang would be around to follow through on it. If not, screw him. He should have given a reason for his displeasure with Esprix in his OP instead of just a bunch of pointless screeching
That’s what I thought, hajario. What if Kang and Kodos went to bed, went home, went to work, went to a movie, etc? I agree that Coldfire needn’t have given him a chance to explain at all before locking the thread. The OP certainly didn’t deserve it. But giving him a chance to explain himself and then imposing such a short window seems silly.
In reading your post in that thread, I guessed that there was a good chance he wouldn’t reply within the two hour limit. It made it seem like you didn’t really want him to explain himself, you just wanted to appear to give him a chance. Then when he didn’t reply we could all say “see? Coldie gave K&K a chance, but he never bothered. K&K is such an asshole.”
I am not claiming that was your intent. In fact I fully believe that it was not. But I think it could be read that way.
Would ten seconds have been reasonable? The point is, why even give a window if the window is too short for someone to have time to reply? Just close the damn thing.
An hour after the op? I usually log on for a few minutes during the day, log off, and then come back a few hours later. Of course, some days I’m on here all the time. I don’t think that that’s a reasonable assumption at all.
I don’t see what the fuck this has to do with the OP at all. Save it for another rant. I said in the OP that the thread should have been closed.
Haj
Note: this really was meant to be a simple question. I have said it before and I will say it again, the Mods here do a phenomenal job.
I have to agree with haj on this one. There is no way of knowing whether he would be back within the time frame. I sometimes start a thread and then leave the board for a few hours.
Perhaps you could have locked the thread, and given Kang & Kodos an opportunity to email you with an explanation/rephrasing, and then if he did so, unlock it. I don’t know if that’s feasible, but it seems better than an arbitrary “window.”
Had K&K returned in time, he would have gotten a chance to redeem himself.
Bu he didn’t return, so I could close it before it became a full-on pile-on.
You can’t please everybody - says so right here on page one of the Mod Manual. Every decision is a judgment call, and this was just another. Arbitrary? Sure. What moderator decision isn’t? Except for clear-cut cases, it’s all about interpretation and extrapolation of the rules.
Yeah, I could have closed it straightaway without any objections, safe perhaps from K&K. As for locking and unlocking after an explanation per e-mail: too much work, quite frankly. I spend enough time moderating already.
Actually, that is exactly the current situation. Kang & Kodos has not been forbidden to petition the staff for a reconsideration. In the meantime, the thread has been closed to prevent future ugliness. If Kang & Kodos actually petitions Lynn or Tuba or Coldy, I’m sure that s/he would be given a fair hearing on the subject. The two-hour window was simply a way to allow Coldy to hold off going through the aggravation of closing the thread if the OP chose to respond before Coldy got on with his own life.
Watch your tone, little mister. My snippiness wasn’t directed at you. Your OP decried Coldfire’s decision as “unfair” and I was pointing out that I wasn’t crying in my beer over poor Kang.
I do not think that anyone could reasonably expect a response in that amount of time. Ten minutes is at least enough time to come back and say, “I’m working on it.” Or Coldie could have left the thread open for three weeks and Kang may never have come back. It’s a chance that he wouldn’t have gotten normally that he could have taken advantage of if he had been here to take it, but not something he could reasonably expect, so I don’t see where “unfair“ comes into it (and who’s to say that he didn’t just chicken out?)
Coldfire, your generosity is unfair, and it is your communist fascist jack-booting around in hippie sandals which keeps this superlative message board from being superlatively superlative.
When you die I will pull a compact seating instrument of my own copyrighted design up to your grave and watch erudite people wildly gesticulate upon your resting place.
Oh, yes, and lest I forget, allow me to provide a highly relevant link.
If getting volunteers is all that is needed to lighten the mod’s load, then it should be said by the administrati. I’m sure that there are a lot of people who would be willing to moderate, once you filter through the pople who want to moderate.
