UK football, season 2008/09, forecasts

Real football doesn’t need a salary cap because in real football poor teams get relegated. The relegated team (usually) doesn’t go away. It’s still there, in the community, and it continues to exist not only as a team but also as an ephemeral entity - the stadium, the stands, the “local” pubs, that kind of stuff.

There are no sports in the US that have a promtion/relegation system. Over here, a shitty team moves someplace that will give the owner a better deal. AIUI that has happened once in modern English football and everyone still talks about Wimbledon FC instead of their successors. That says a lot more about our legal system than it does about our sports system.

Because you non-American bastards have, over the years, managed to suck me into your goddamn sport I’ve come to believe that the promotion/relegation system is the way it should be. Despite that, your brainwashing attempts have not convinced me that things like salary caps are WRONG, just that our system has developed a little different over here. Y’all have the Coca Cola league; we have college ball games. The money is still in play; it’s just distributed in a somewhat different manner.

But, man - can you imagine what baseball would be like if teams could be promoted/relegated through AAA/AA/A? It’s the only professional American sport that could pull it off and man it’d be fun to watch…

Kris Boyd to Lazio?

fwah fwah fwah.

I would say the Richest Club In The World is the one that can pay £140 million all told for Kaka and then pay him half a million pounds a week after tax and still have £15 mill left over for De Jong, £19 million for Cruz and £12 mill for Bellamy and still have change.

I would agree with tagos.

So, the latest story is that Hughes thinks a deal is “very close”, and that Meeelan are “evaluating” an offer thought to be in the region of €150m. Hilariously, this breaks down as follows:

[ul][li]€120m as a fee for Kaka[/li][li]€20m in agents’ fees[/li][li]€10m for Kaka’s father[/ul][/li]Hughes refused to be drawn on where he plans to play Kaka’s dad, although Wayne Bridge is believed to be worried that he will play second fiddle to a man who, although 55 years old and a civil engineer, is expected to figure heavily at the back of a revised 7-7-5 formation comprising the entire Brazilian national first team and the original lineup of The Fall.

Having already paid £12M for Wayne Bridge :smiley:

Oh, I think they have a bit more than change left

As a City fan I know this is all going to blow up in our faces at some point but for the moment I think we have earned the right to dream through our decades of suffering.

And one of the beauties of football is that you cannot buy guaranteed success no matter how much you spend.

As a Manc, I hope you do pull it off and it turns you into a team that can consistently compete for the top silverware. I’d LOVE Manchester to have the TWO best football teams in the world.
p.s. And it’d certainly cheer up my youngest bro’, the misery guts!

Agreed. City are going to have an awesome second 11 too. :wink:

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As a Manc, I hope you do pull it off and it turns you into a team that can consistently compete for the top silverware. I’d LOVE Manchester to have the TWO best football teams in the world.
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Just a minute…you’re a Manc and you support the rags.

Imagine that, the rags have at least one fan from Manchester;)

Your bro sounds like a decent sort of chap :slight_smile:

The Hughsie Young’uns? Hmmm…not quite got the same ring as the Busby Babes, has it? :smiley:

Well, The Cockney Blues just doesn’t sound right, does it? :slight_smile:

Oh, he is. When you’ve had a win. :stuck_out_tongue:

:frowning:

It’s sad, I’d like to see some creative English players. Useless “coaches” probably tell anyone with any creativity to keep it simple and run around more, or some such tosh. Hopefully Wilshere comes good.

Calling it now: if Liverpool win the League (unlikely) Benitez will get the absurd contract he wants, if not he’s gone.

Hope Kaka goes to Citeh (of the richest owner, not richest club). Football is so boring with mechanical teams like Chelski and Liverpool, would be nice if Citeh can kick one of them out with Robinho and Kaka at the core.

I can’t root for Villa to do so though, unless MON buys some creative players so his team isn’t so one dimensional.

Richest owner/richest club.

More or less like Al Fayed innit?.

As for Busby Babes ** Ivan I allus thought that expression was a bit cloying.

Now Sparkys Supermen…that’s got a certain summat :slight_smile:

For now, for now. :wink:

Sorry, I was thinking the traditional “Big 4” not the current top 4. My apologies.

Wikipedia has al Fayed’s fortune estimated at a mere half a billion quid. Peanuts.

I’m planning to spend that much on lager tonight. And peanuts too, I guess.

I somehow doubt the name of Hughes will concern us past the summer.

The Mouriniho Marvels.

The Maldini Magnificoes

The Wenger Let’s Not Go There’s.

Perhaps I’m missing something, but if not everyone has so far missed something else - the reason Ronaldo was vilified by crowds in England after that incident with Rooney is because he is the foreigner, and therefore easier to pick on than Rooney, who is after all one of England’s best players and a crowd favourite. It was perceived that Ronaldo had somehow caused Rooney’s dismissal (and hence England’s elimination from the competition due to having to play the rest of the game with 10 men), so let’s blame the foreigner rather than one of our own. This was exacerbated by Ronaldo’s wink afterwards, as if he knew that Rooney’s stamp wasn’t really that hard.

Baseball would need a major overhaul for this to work because the AAA/AA/A teams are really just junior versions of the Major League teams. So, for example, the Atlanta Braves run the Gwinnett Braves in AAA, the Mississippi Braves in AA and Rome Braves and Myrtle Beach Pelicans (why not Braves?) in A. Players can move between the teams, so an Atlanta Brave recovering from injury may play a warm up game or two for the AAA team. Our an out-of-form Brave may be sent down to a minor league team for a while to regain his form.

Just imagine what would happen if a AAA team got promoted? It would be like having Manchester United reserves playing in the Premiership.

That’s the way the do it in Spain though. E.g. Real Madrid B (reserves) plays in Serie B or C and has a theoretical chance of gaining promotion. But as all the best players go to the A-team, there isn’t that much of a chance of it happening.

So it could be done, even if the bigger teams own the smaller ones.