True true. I hope they don’t get stuffed though, it might send United on a run. 0-0 with lots of injuries would be ideal I think!
I think you are all ignoring the very real possibility of a Treble this season. 
Call me greedy, but I want an unprecedented 5 timer! 
Tbh though, I’d be happy with just the premiership and equalling Liverpool’s record.
It hurts to say this but I’d rather your shower win the Carling Cup than the Spuds
Hahahahahaha.
Look at their stats man. Man City have scored more goals than them! They’re awful at the moment, kept up by the backline. Who just all got injured.
They’d struggle to beat Sporting friggin Lisbon at the moment.
Which, of course, is why they are at the top of the table, with a game in hand, no less. :rolleyes:
Your attitude about the quality of football is, frankly, getting silly sounding. Of course, the proof will be in the pudding, so to speak. I’ll withhold further commentary until May, at which point we shall see what we shall see.
I’ll be happy to eat crow if all the English teams get through to the quarters. Heck, even if 3 of them make it. I think 1, maybe 2 is likeliest. I hope you’ll do likewise if the opposite occurs 
Though I withdraw the ‘bet’ if someone starts banging in 3 goals a game, since my position is just that they all suck now, not in general.
I’m not sure why you find my opinion unusual. Liverpool were on top of the table despite getting fewer points from the games they’d played than they got last season (I believe they were 4th then, their token league challenge long over). Something like 6 of United’s last 9 games were 1-0s. Yeah, they’re winning, but that’s seriously unimpressive, even in Italy, and last I checked English teams don’t play like that. Chelsea have sort of fallen apart, and their lack of width and forward issues are well documented. I trust I don’t even need to go into Arsenal.
There’s been plenty of talk of the first team to stop sucking wins the league. I’m hardly alone in being seriously unimpressed with the quality this season. It’s surprising, a squad like United should be far better, I’m very surprised they’ve been so poor (defence excepted of course, that’s been superb).
Well, yeah; Man City have scored more goals than anyone except Chelsea (who are, of course, very boring according to you). So what on earth does this prove?
I’m with DSYoungEsq on this; everything for you is apparently shit unless it’s Barca. Barca this, Barca that, English football sucks. Change the tune, eh?
Jesus, you’ve got me defending Chelsea and Man U. That it should come to this…
Er, no. All I’m saying is the English top 4, other than their defences, are very poor this season. That’s all. The fact that teams near the relegation zone are scoring more goals than them was evidence offered for said point.
And I’ve never said everyone other than Barcelona are shit. Most teams in Europe are roughly as expected, actually. Some good, some mediocre, some bad. The English teams are unexpectedly bad.
Well yeah, and we’re saying that “very poor” is a pretty daft overstatement, and that picking out the one club near the relegation zone that is capable of scoring goals for fun but has a defence more penetrable than Paris Hilton’s nethers doesn’t really qualify as evidence, particularly in a season when “near the relegation zone” means anywhere from eighth place downwards.
You yourself say Man United’s defence is excellent, and their attack (which admittedly hasn’t quite gelled around Berbatov yet) is scoring a mere 1.5 goals per game; that’s “very poor”? Really? This is what we’re saying; the weird absolutism you’re constantly coming out with is, well … weird.
Aaanyway, anyway, in happier news it looks like droopy and grumpy are going to get stuffed by their loans, forcing them to sell up for £110m less than they might’ve made eight months ago. And a bloody good job, too; it still offends me that they might make as much as a dime out of all this.
Having comprehensively bagged City for being Abu Dhabi’s pet club, of course, I can’t say I’m that keen about becoming the Kuwaiti Kop. Is it really too much to ask to find an owner that doesn’t want to either show off to his mates on his yacht, or leverage the crap out of the business and sell it on for a quick buck?
Sure, in absolute terms they aren’t very poor. I’m talking by their own standards though. You don’t think 1.5 goals per game is poor for a club like United? Meant to be best in the world, very attacking? I’d say the same for Arsenal or Real Madrid or whatever. For contrast, the big Italian teams averaged around 1.8-1.9 per game last season, in a far more miserly league.
So yeah, very poor in an attacking sense, very good defensively.
ETA: If you’re nitpicking about me calling them poor, just replace it with underachieving. For that club, for the amount they attack, for the players they have, they are scoring shockingly few goals.
Manure beat Spuds 2-1 :mad:
Is there no Og?
Bollocks, bollocks and more bollocks
Let me be the first to congratulate Swansea on knocking out the current FA cup holders Portsmouth.
A Championship side beating a Premier side at their ground.
Of course it would be churlish of me to criticise whatever his name is (the presenter) on the BBC football round up, when he said (more or less)
“Of course it was a good win for Swansea but what can Tony Adams do to get Portsmouth out of the shit?”
Then the three experts began pontificating about what Adams would have to do. Experts that are only there because they are too useless to get a proper job in football. Need I mention Garth Crooks and Steve Claridge and Gary Pallister?
At least Adams had the grace to say ”we were outclassed, outplayed and outfought and that’s not good enough.”
Now that I’ve got that out of the way, if you want me I shall be sitting next to and getting outside the contents of a bottle of bubbly stuff and celebrating the birth of a new grandson.
Cheers.
And Cardiff held the mighty Gooners to a draw.
Spawny manure get yet another easy draw for 5th round, Forest or Derby
The best result of the weekend was Liverpool being forced into a replay - that’s hardly going to help their Premiership challenge. If only it was at Brighton or Plymouth instead of somewhere just across the park, but one can’t have everything…
chowder, I thought you said you’d rather Man U won the cup than Spurs?
The Carling Cup my good fellow. I want Liverpool to win the FA Cup
Explain exactly how their 4th round draw was an “easy” draw? 
:rolleyes:
Home draw against a team struggling in the relegation zone.
That easy enough for you?
Well if Arsenal really do have a chance of taking the league then surely that means there are at least 13 teams struggling in the relegation zone, that doesn’t leave a lot of ‘difficult’ opponents to pick from.
Tottenham, Portsmouth, City, Bolton are all ‘easy’ teams that can frustrate even the best on an off-day. They certainly have more chance than Ipswich, Cardiff or … Nottingham Forest.
In a round in which there were a significant number of participants still in the draw who are from below the Premier League? Get real.
One of these days, all y’all will accept that bashing everything about Manchester United simply makes you look silly. It also belittles the accurate points you make about them.