UK "road trip" vacation - where?

I’m playing with the idea of vacationing in the UK. Now, I like driving and I like to see places, so I thought that it might be a good idea to fly to London, rent a car, put the wife in the passenger seat and have a road trip of some sort. If I just can get over the fear of driving on the wrong side of the road, the idea of driving through the countryside, just seeing places and spending the night at small hotels seems attractive. No big plans, just driving, seeing places, meeting people and maybe taking some pictures. I’d also like to spend some afternoons and/or evenings sampling the beer at various pubs. :stuck_out_tongue:

Unfortunately, I haven’t the slightest idea about where to go. I’m totally blank except that I know I don’t want to drive the big highways. Country roads, please. I’m thinking of - but haven’t decided - driving northwards, but that’s about as far as I’ve thought. I’d appreciate some suggestions from all you UK dopers. If we plan on spending a couple of weeks, is it realistic to plan to go all the way up to Scotland, or should we stay in England to avoid too many kilometers behind the wheel and/or having to use highways all the way? Where should we stop? What should we see? Where should we spend more than just one night? What about Wales?

PS: We’re in our late forties, if that’s relevant.

Sounds like a great adventure in the making. My strategy for driving on the “wrong” side of the road when I went to New Zealand was to find a car going in my direction and follow it–that got me out of the airport and through some roundabouts and helped me get acclimated. The hardest part was ending up in the wrong lane making turns…I was cured quickly after a near head-on collision.

To whet your appetite for a UK roadtrip, and maybe give you some ideas on places to stay and eat, check out Steve Coogan’s “The Trip”.

My advice of places to definitely see would be the Bamburgh/Holy Island area, Durham Cathedral, The Lake District, definitely a drive through the Scottish highlands and Cornwall. Others will chime in with suggestions as well.
May I suggest that you end up in London at the end of your trip, have a couple of days doing the museum there and perhaps look at getting a train to Paris? only a couple of hours from central London and certainly do-able as a day trip about £100

My wife and I did essentially this a few years back. There are lots of places to go and things to see just about anywhere in the country. Any tour guidebook will overload you with suggestions. It depends on what you want to see. My advice would be to stick to one area and explore it leisurely rather than try to see everything. Our trip was a bit too rushed. We never stayed more than two nights in any one place. If we were to do it again, I’d probably spend the whole trip exploring Scotland. Or possibly Wales and the Lake District. Or the southwest.

Oh, and don’t feel like you have to fly in to London. If you’re not spending time in the city, fly in to somewhere else, like Edinburgh, so you don’t have to waste time getting out of London and into someplace you like better.

Sounds like a fun trip. The UK is a great place to try out the small roads–they have plenty. :slight_smile: I think you should definitely explore Scotland as well as England. The lochs are lovely, and I really enjoyed the small seaside town of Oban. If you are small roads people, you will probably like B&Bs. I have loved the ones I stayed in, with the exception of a real dump in London. www.smoothound.co.uk is a good source.

I’m just back from the UK where my friend and I did a bit of driving … we found it very hilarious (we are from Australia) how far you could get in one day!!! It really is a TINY country!

The hardest part is that the motorways are really easy to use … but not so easy if you want to stop off and see small towns. You do really need to plan which towns you want to visit - not all of them are worth seeing. You need to know which junction you’re getting off the motorway and what you want to see.

We spent some time in the Lake District and it was so incredibly beautiful I want to go back already! Highly recommend it!

Be careful of the weather - it can be wet and miserable, OK if you are going to spend the day in the car or ducking in and out shops, not so OK if you want to go walking or see some of the sights.

Getting up to Scotland is completely feasible and should be done! It’s really only a couple of hours from London!

We went from Bath to Derbyshire (the middle) in about 3 hours one day … then from there to Lake District (near Scotland) in another 3 hours … and that was taking our time and not even driving close to the speed the other drivers were going!!! Even getting in and out of major cities (eg. Manchester) took a lot less time than I expected.

Next trip I will plan better for those stops along the way each day (although the idea of picking as you travel sounds great, you miss out on things unless you do your research), I do like a couple of days in some places (eg. Bath etc) and I would recommend hiring the SMALLEST car possible - tiny itty country roads are not pleasant with even a ‘normal’ sized car!!

Thanks, guys, some good advice here!

Didn’t know about that one, I’ll definitely look into it.

You’re the first, but not the only one to suggest The Lake District and Scotland. Guess I gotta consider those. But Paris? That’ll be another trip :cool: Besides, we’ve been to Paris a few times before.

That’s why I’m asking you guys, to get some ideas to help me choosing between all those suggestions :wink:

That’s a good point!

Also a good point. I was thinking London because it’s not uncommon to find dirt cheap tickets to London. Other UK destinations, not so much.

Hmm… Scotland… Oban… Whisky… Guess I’ll have to register two drivers for the rental car and convince the wife to share the driving :smiley:

No worries, mate, we’re used to crappy weather where I live :cool:

Perhaps I wasn’t clear enough, I’m definitely planning to to my research first and plan a schedule. But I’m embarrassingly ignorant about the UK :dubious: since I’ve only been there on business trips, while we’ve been doing most of our our vacationing abroad in continental Europe. That’s why I’m asking for some tips, to get a good starting point for further research for the planning stage

Are they worse than this or this? If not, I think we’ll manage. I’ve driven that one in a small(ish) SUV quite a few times, and quite a few more in a family-sized station wagon :wink: :cool:

I’d break it into several mini trips if I were you - a few days pottering round the coastal towns of Cornwall, then head up to Wales and tour the valleys there, then a third tour of the Lake District, then a jaunt round the Scottish Highlands. You will need to go on the motorways between these min-trips, but during them you can stick to smaller local roads okay.

(possibly another trip round the Yorkshire dales too? Or the Cotswalds?)

Also, please note we use miles, not kilometers on our road signs :slight_smile:

Essential drinking stop - the boots bar in the Clachaig, Glencoe! And also maybe the Kings House, at the other end of Glencoe :wink:

Sounds like a very good idea, thanks!

Darn, I thought that - except for the beer glasses - you’d converted totally to Metric. Well, guess that just shows the level of my ignorance :smack: :wink:

Oooh, me like. makes note :stuck_out_tongue:

Yes, more like this. Think single track roads, high high hedges, no visibility around tight corners, local farmers driving like lunatics with no regard for oncoming traffic. Small cars are the way to go.

What are you actually interested in? I mean, just thinking, you’re from Norway, right? I’m not sure how exciting you’d actually find the Lake District- it’s generally reckoned to be the pretty bit of England, but it’s not that dissimilar to a quite a bit of Norway, only not really as impressive, and with a lot more tourists. It’s nice and all, and if you’re going up to Scotland then it’s definitely worth a look, as you’re basically going through it. I can probably recommend a few pubs round there too, but I’m not sure if you’d find it worth dedicating a sizeable portion of your trip to.

You’ve definitely shown an interest in pubs, but is there anything you (or the wife) are especially interested in?

And really, get a small car- otherwise it’s an absolute pain in the arse on the tiny roads, because passing places are few and far between on a lot of them, but in a little car, you can often squeeze past without having to back up round a blind bend. The road SanVito posted is not one of the worst, by any means.

Some notes on navigation:

The distance between things in the British Isles can have a strange warping quality. Cornwall is far further than you’d imagine from looking on the map, as is Scotland beyond the central belt (Scotland’s most southerly point is barely 1/2 way up the British mainland). Assuming you’ll average 50mph is a good rule of thumb for longer journeys.

Zoom google maps in map mode (not satellite) until the scale shows 10 mi. If you can’t see the road you’re planning to use, and it’s near a big (~> 10 mi) gap between blue, orange or green roads then be prepared for roads as described by SanVito - his linked picture is in the apparently road-free gap just below Shrewsbury bordered by the roads to Ludlow and Kidderminster. Some parts of the country are worse than others once you’re off the beaten track - Cumbria and the Dales can get pretty tight, especially if there’s anyone in a BMW nearby.
Don’t get the smallest engined car though - once you get into the pretty bits it can also get pretty hilly in places. For the most part it’s flatter south of the line between the Severn estuary at the bottom of Wales and the Humber by Hull.

Things to see:
Well, there’s London, I suppose, which gets most of the arts, culture & transport funding and its inhabitants then still have the gall to say they aren’t getting enough. It does, however, have excellent museums, theatres etc etc …
Most of the castles are in the bits that habitually annoyed the monarchy and thus got stomped on in the form of rampaging armies using a castle for a base - North Wales and Northumberland/Durham/Yorkshire have the highest density of them; there’s quite a few in Scotland as well, Edinburgh being the most obvious.
Town halls in the north of England. This sounds perverse, I know, but the great northern cities had a mad game of one-upmanship back in the 19th Century, resulting in some of the most spectacular buildings you’ll see. Liverpool, Manchester, Bradford, Leeds, Sheffield were all at it. A few years back I used to live and work in Warrington, which is but a town. They decided to opt out of the game by having some fancy gates put in instead (that’s my theory anyway).
Cathedrals - St Paul’s in London, Ely, Lincoln, York and Durham are those most worth seeing. Note that there is pretty much nothing else of interest in Durham - continue to Newcastle, where there are other things to do.
Ironbridge Gorge near Telford for the first cast iron bridge, Pontcysyllte Aqueduct near Llangollen, the National Railway Museum in York.
In addition to the national parks already mentioned, Snowdonia and the North York Moors are also worth a thought.

Other random thoughts:
Pubs with a 70s or Karaoke night banner out front are usually worth avoiding.
As are motorway service stations, the one exception being near Tebay on the M6 just by the Lake District.
We are currently attempting to make Scandinavians feel more at home by exponentially raising the beer prices. The Cask Marque sign outside a pub means that at least you won’t be paying through the nose for bad beer. You’ll be paying through the nose for good beer.
Beer prices, and the quality and size of fish and chips portions generally improve as you go north. Condiment etiquette in chip shops changes nearly as quickly as the local accents.

Brecon and the surrounding area is very beautiful. Some of the driving around there is also fantastic.

What are you actually focussed on? If you are totally interested in roads which is how I would approach it being a road nerd, then there’s a much better forum than here for that.

Where is that you ask?

Why, here it is.

You should also definitely if you like driving a lot pop over to the Isle of Man where there are loads of gorgeous roads with no speed limits (and it is also a slightly strange place for an American to visit with a hell of a lot in it for the size). In particular, the infamous mountain road.

And I’ll buy you a pint!

As others have said the distances are so small that when I did it we would change our itinerary on a whim. A local or another tourist would remark, “oh if you like this you should go to…”

I found myself fascinated by things that I would have assumed were of no interest at all.

One tip for the driving. When leaving off street parking pause before entering the roadway and picture where you are going to end up. It’s easy if there is no traffic to just automatically turn onto “your” side of the road.

Filbert: You’re right, after seeing a few pictures of The Lake District, it won’t be my first priority region to see. We’ve got a few valleys and mountains up here, so I’d rather see those parts of the UK that are more different from Scandinavia.

Seeing new places and sceneries, walking around cities and towns to get a “feel” for the atmosphere, seeing and perhaps speaking with locals. Photographing all that. Experiencing local food and drink. Generally, trying to get a feeling of what makes other places different from home. Attractions are nice, but really not at the top of my list.

drbhoneydew: Lots of good advice here, thanks a lot.

:smiley:

What do you mean by that? :confused:

Heh. good tip.

I love Bath and the surrounding area. Should I ever make it back to the UK with my wants a priority, rather than on chaperone duty, I would aim for either Cornwall, the Isle of Man or Scotland.

Honestly, my favorite thing to do before traveling somewhere is to read watch TV shows or novels that are set in the general area I am heading. I loved my first trip to London where I would see things like Harvey Nichols and flash to Absolutely Fabulous’s “Harvey Nick’s Dahling”. My current desire to head to Cornwall is driven by Doc Martin. After reading way too much Jane Austen, even seeing Cheapside ()ref Pride & Prejudice) on the map gave me a special little thrill. Same thing with Bath.

Every region eats their chips (potato fries) differently. In Glasgow, it’s with salt & vinegar, Edinburgh, it’s salt’n sauce, other regions with cheese or curry sauce. Condiments are serious business :wink:

More pubs while I think of them:
The DroversInn, on the A82 near Loch Lomond. Have the haggis, seriously :slight_smile:
The CluanieIn, on the Road to the Isles (A87 to Skye). They’ve got 100 whiskies - book in for a night and see how many you can sample :wink:
The Royal Oak, Ambleside. And most of the other pubs in the Lake District :wink:
The Settle Inn, Stirling. Visit the Castle while you’re there.

If different from Scandinavia is what you are after, then I wouldn’t head north or to Scotland, but instead head south west – Bath, Stonehenge, Salisbury, The Jurassic coastin Dorset and Devon, Cornwall, then swing backwards through Cotswold country.

This part of the country ticks many of the ‘English’ boxes that people typically see on American movies – rose covered cottages, cream teas, narrow roads and high hedges, rolling fields, ancient pubs, stately homes… and it has some of the most dramatic coastlines and beautiful beaches you’ll find in the country.

Excuse me, we DO NOT have crappy weather. And unlike you Vikings we do not have rain either. We have liquid sunshine, and you shall enjoy it. :wink:

I would say instead of the very full Lake District try North Wales or the Dales. Just as pretty, but not as touristy.

In the North (that’s everything north of Cambridge, so basically all of the UK) it might be nice to look into a bit of the history of industrialisation? There are loads of places with little old steam railways and museums dedicated to the cotton industry etc.

Of course there are also the stately homes to visit, they can be pretty, interesting for their history and they usually have nice grounds as well. They’re all over the place so it doesn’t matter where you go.

As for airports: check out where EasyJet and Ryan Air fly. I flew to Oslo from Manchester for £9 total. Manchester and Liverpool airports are both pretty good.

If you want a B&B in Cheshire, just outside Manchester, let me know! There is a little place there I need to plug…