UK Snap Election: 8 June 2017

It’s going to be awkward for the Parliament but I’m just buzzing from the fact London is socialist - emphatic result.

First Sadiq Khan in a landslide, now this; glory days :slight_smile:

:smack::smack::smack:

Newcastle beating the usually-first Sunderland South to declare was a minor point of amusement last night.

I won’t dispute the latter point but as I recall it the Conservatives were strongly divided on the issue; it passed with the blessing of the more socially progressive half of the Tories (including Cameron) and the strong backing of Labour (and presumably the LibDems too).

Not really; there are a lot of Labour Leave voters.

That doesn’t explain places like Canterbury.

A majority of 45. He must be so proud.

I know! And Dacre and the Barclays…

Yes, one of the unexpected downsides of last night was the likelihood of DUrP gaining a lot of political leverage, corrupt fundamentalist troglodytes though they be. The LibDems have utterly ruled out joining any coalition, even on a vote-by-vote basis, as they are still licking their self-inflicted wounds from 2015. And while Labour/SNP isn’t the worst match in the world I doubt Corbyn would want to pay the price Sturgeon would demand: another vote on independence.

Speaking of the LibDems, you have to feel for Tim Farron. There he was, giving his victory speech which no one was listening to because they were watching the man directly behind him who was dressed as a fishfinger.

NME?

ITN did some really good work last night on yoof turnout in 50 marginals. In those marginals the yoof and Red Kippers won it for Labour together.

UK election nights in a picture: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DB2PcwbXYAAchQi.jpg

I know.

Doing the maths, 72% looks like it is plausible but astonishing. An overall increase in voters of c. 2.4 million, of whom c.40% would be 18-24. (That’s based on population share estimates of the age groups (18-24=12%), so some inaccuracy depending on registration levels. Talk of 1 million extra registrations before the election though could mean the share of electorate was higher than 12%.

Anyhow, doesn’t imply collapse in elderly voting, just a surge in youth voting. Unprecedented.

I’ve got problems with Corbyn, but all kudos to him for this - he played for and got.

That’s all very reliant on assumptions about the size of the electorate, which I can’t find great data on for 2017 yet. So pinch of salt.

Of the 650, 200 members of the new Parliament are women.

Conservatives in the media this morning: “We are all standing firmly behind Mrs May.”

<sound of knives sharpening>

I’ve forgotten who the Tory talking head on the Channel 4 election show was (besides Anne Widdecombe) but he got asked about what would happen to Theresa May should the exit poll prove correct, on the basis that the Tories are “all about power” and notoriously unforgiving of failure. He spluttered and denied everything, but it had clearly struck a nerve.

Dominic Raab, I think. A fairly radical Tory IIRC.

The better to stab her in the back. I’ve started a thread on her replacement here.

Good election. The swingometer is May swinging from a lamppost and Corbyn is down the allotment trying to figure out if peapod wine is a good substitute for champaign. I’m looking forward to next year’s general election now.

On Corbyn’s unelectability, here are the figures for general recent election winners:
Blair 1997: 13,518,167
Blair 2001: 10,724,953
Blair 2005: 9,552,436
Cameron 2010: 10,703,754
Cameron 2015: 11,334,576

And the loser: Corbyn 2017: 12,858,652

So twenty years since even the winner got more votes than Labour this time round.

There’s your next cover of Private Eye right there.

Then Home Secretary, Theresa May, speaking in 2015 on why a minority Labour government being propped up by the SNP would cause the worst constitutional crisis since 1936.

I wonder how they’ll square that circle with their DUP love-in.

I’ve been reading about how good a night the Tories had in Scotland. While it’s true, it may not last: I think that there was a lot of tactical voting. I only have to look in the mirror for that.

It’s completely different: the SNP want to break the Union; the DUP do not.

It’s clearly the same scenario that she was using to stoke up anti-Scottish sentiment in 2015, the will of the English electorate being subverted by voters from another part of the UK.

But sure, it’s because the SNP want to break up the union.

:rolleyes:

I don’t know why you’re rolling your eyes; it really is as simple as that.

If she had said “It would mean Scottish MPs who want to break up the union making decisions on issues affecting England and Wales" you might have a sliver of a point. But she didn’t. The union is not mentioned, it’s not even hinted at. Because that’s not the point she’s making.

I know “The Union” is your version of “It’s the economy stupid”, but not everything’s about that. Really, it’s not - most people probably don’t give it much thought, and Theresa May certainly wasn’t thinking about it in the comments above.

For some definitions of “last”. You have had several decades of Scots who supported most things in the Tory manifesto, steadfastly voting against “those Tory bastards”.
As long as SNP’s independence claims remains a factor in Scottish politics and Labour/Lib Dems continue to equivocate on the issue, the Tories will continue to benefit from it, being the party of Union.

That’s all true, but for most of those years there were more votes for smaller parties, mainly Lib Dems, SNP and UKIP. This time there were many more votes for the two larger parties, so it doesn’t necessarily prove anything.

It’s certainly vastly more than I expected him to get when the election was called, though.