Some excerpts from ‘of course its all Obama’s fault’ conservative Reaganite know it all:
Here’s the forlorn pining for Ronnie:
Here’s the standard all Obama’s fault swipe:
So KT made a prediction 16 hours ago that that Ukraine " is likely to fall back into the Russian fold," basically because Putin raised his brow and Obama cowered in fear.
Fox News needs to fire this fool McFarland once and for all. We are waking to this:
Ukraine protesters take Kiev without a shot as Yanukovich flees …
23 minutes ago … Protesters took control of Ukraine’s capital Saturday, seizing the president’s office as parliament voted to remove him and hold new elections.
Ukraine parliament votes to remove president - USA Today
So you agree completely with everything McFarland says, right? Or is the context supposed to tell us that this has nothing to do with Ukraine?
And why exactly doesn’t Obama have a cunning, masterful plan to force Putin to back down by issuing threats that nobody else will back up? You apparently think Obama’s threats against Syria forced Putin to fall into line - why doesn’t Obama do the same for Ukraine?
While I don’t agree with everything that President Obama, I do see where he is taking a pragmatic approach to relations with Russia. The US simply has no cards to play in Ukraine. Even sanctions would help Russia regain influence rathe than punishing the nation’s leaders.
Fox News doesn’t seem understand “pragmatism.” To that network anything that politicians who they despise do is showing weakness, regardless if those “weaknesses” are real or simply Fox fabrications. That’s why Fox is useless for anything approaching rational political discussion.
The guy is welcome to be wrong about everything without losing his job at Fox News as far as I’m concerned. I prefer he make a good living lying to the gullible than be out committing securities fraud or something illegal that the government doesn’t prosecute.
The sane among us have no interest in what FOX thinks except that a significant minority of the population swallows what they defecate (that one’s for you, Martin Bashir) uncritically.
However, the insanity factor among what Roger Ailes spews (no matter the figurehead, it’s Ailes talking) gets attention. In an environment where the media, generally, is dominated by the right wing, the last thing that progressives, liberals, and moderates need to do is spend time giving them air time or attention.
As for the OP… yeah, complete and other blather from McFarland-Ailes. No surprise there. The main idea for FOX there is to plant a Someone Said regarding the sentence you bolded and underlined in the quote. Now that someone said it, it is a source in Fox World. Again, who cares?
Have any trolls arrived? I thought it unusual that there was no thread started with the recent events in Ukraine making headlines. Sort if had another one of them coup d’états happen last night. Perhaps there is something to be said about it.
I want to know if there is anyone who can argue a respectable case on what KT McFarland has to say about anything. This is a case of a huge Putin fail. How do conservative talking heads (gossip heads in McFarland’s case) deal with a Putin fail after Putin has been on such a roll (supposedly)
Is KT now done riding that Putin horse since the Obama leading from behind horse has never been behind anyway? Obama is a full lap ahead now if you know what I mean.
You haven’t answered the question. Why hasn’t Obama done the same thing with Putin about Ukraine that he did with Syria - forced him to accept a deal by making threats that no one else takes seriously?
You have spent pages and pages arguing that Obama did this in Syria. Why does Obama not do it with Ukraine?
Oh for fuck’s sake don’t be more of an idiot than the idiot you’re arguing with. Everyone knows that you can drone/missile strike the Middle East but not Eastern fucking Europe. So one is much more obviously an idle threat than the other.
I, for one, don’t understand the Right’s fascination- dare I say love affair?- with Putin. With the previous President, even saying something bad about the administration was enough to derail your musical career, but now it’s simply accepted and even encouraged if you’re sponsored by Fox News. I guess if you hate the President enough, you can develop a fascination for the Russian head of state. Seems a little unAmerican to me, but who am I to judge?
I find the Libya comments baffling. Why would Obama be honor bound to make the same mistake in Ukraine that he did here (albeit a mistake that ended in about the least bad way possible)? Things seem to be working out as well as could reasonably expected at this point without the US’s involvement (though as pointed out, there is scant little the US can do, even if we tilt things all the way into its favour) - although there is still the possibility of things turning south. One wonders if that isn’t the worrying thing to some people.
Exactly what is the beef? A pro-Russian government has fallen, the pro-western protesters have prevailed, Putin suffers a major embarrassment during his Olympics, the US didn’t spend a nickel or shed a drop of blood. I’m sure Dick Cheney would have sent in the tanks and been greeted as a liberator after making sure his company pocketed billions.