Ultimate Weapon

what would the ultimate weapon be? the most useful weapon a millitary could have. and one that if they possessed would not need another weapon for any reason. not how it would be implimented, but what charactoristics would it have?

a big giant bomb probobly wouldn’t be it, there is limited usefulness to just blowing up large areas. something along the lines of a system that some futuristic way that some general points to a map and a explotion spontaniously happens there?

or mabey a stun ray? everyone in an area suddenly becomes a statue untill they are released?

what WOULD the ultimate weapon be?

Mass ignorance and a militant leader… Works everytime.

The ultimate weapon is the ability to think and reason. Out thinking your opponent and frustrateing his plans at every turn.

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The weapon the evil Kirk had in Mirror, Mirror might come in handy–no need to go to war, just assassinate the person who’s troubling you. Might take a few tries to properly cut the head off the snake, but eventually people would get used to the idea that opposing whoever had it was a bad idea.

'course, it’d suck if the bad guys had one, too, but that’s why Kirk killed the guy that made the first one.

An ability to read everyone elses thoughts. If we have no secrets, conflict would be resolved before it gets too far out of hand.

Mind control device - turn even the worst despots friendly peaceful people, with no death done at all.

There is no such thing as an ultimate weapon. Every weapon has a counter, even if it is as simple as someone else using the weapon on you before you can use it on them.

The Ultimate Weapon would be a self reproducing macro organism, capable of independant thought and creating tools necessary for any encountered enimy.

Humans would fit the bill.

The Ledbetter effect from robert Heinleins “Sixth Column” would be kinda cool. Being able to blanket an area with energy /weaponfire that injures/kills only people with certain genetic markers. You could program the weapons of an army to only kill the enemy (assuming he has identifiable genetic differences)

OK, one more answer…
Although I agree, more or less, with Lemur866-here’s my concept of the biggest, baddest, and most vile weapon (yeah I’m a pacifist): An actual, working, Star Wars setup. Sort of like Reagan’s misguided idea. Say the US wanted to conquer the world (!!???!). Instead of spending gazillions of $$$ (sorry, no cite on that) on our current military setup, the government could send up say, 150 satellites positioned strategically in orbit. Each one contains the best telescopes and powerful lasers. I don’t mean industrial lasers, but ones that we could see a few decades from now. This would give a powerful country like the US a true omnipresent reach to anyplace, anytime,at a moment’s notice. People already say that the US military is merely playing “video games”, but an enhanced star wars type program could be the difference between playing a flight sim and playing a god-game. (quick round of Sim Earth anyone?)
As for an energy source, maybe they make 1 in 10 larger to allow for a Nuclear Fusion reactor. And tether that one to the others, using the tether to transmit energy to the “drones”.

Which brings me to the OP’s senario of not needing another weapon. I reason that you must have something else. What would you conquer with? Even in my “plan”, you would still need a way to take over the opponents in order to complete the idea of an ultimate weapon. Otherwise I change my answer: A big-ass ateroid.
PS, I know we don’t have the technology to do this. I just read what I wrote and it sounds like I think we can do this tommorrow.

Hopefully a bunch of smarter Dopers will lucidly explain why this is a completey stupid and unworkable idea- I would mind at all.:slight_smile:

This guy.

A rock if used correctly at the right time and place. Dead is dead.

A board with a nail in it (until someone comes along with a bigger board)

Assuming ultra-tech sci-fi stuff, a modified Star Trek transporter. It can be used in a couple different ways; For a point target, simply use the transporter on a person… But never re-materialize him. Scramble him into raw energy, never save his pattern. For an area target, you start the same (Disintigrating the target into raw energy), but then just don’t do anything with it. Doing that, you could “transport” one kilogram of matter (Say, a brick) out of the white house, and flatten all of Washington with the released energy. Or for a slight twist, transport a 1-kilo weight from your ship/base/whatever to the target… And simply “neglect” the final step of re-constructing that energy into matter. Same huge yield, but you don’t need to transport anything away (Or, for the ST universe, you don’t need to transport through their shields).

Star Fleet could be vicious if they just had some creative minds in R&D…

For more real-world stuff, I think the nuke is it. At least for now, and I doubt nuclear weapons will ever be considered below the level of at least runner-up for the “Ultimate Weapon.” I can only see two contenders for pure destructive power:

1: Antimatter weapons. Very small compared to an equal-yield nuke (Most likely, that is). And since they do not have radiological matter like a nuke does, it leaves no fallout (Though they do have a significant burst of gamma radiation on detonation). However, it’s not safe to handle, to say the least. It’s almost like using nitroglycerin grenades. Sure, they’d be devestating. Just don’t jostle it too hard. In the case of antimatter, if the containment failed, you’d have a full yield. Not exactly what the millitary would consider a very good thing, since the emphasis lately among the higher-tech millitaries has been more redundant safety systems for manned vehicles. It also takes a huge amount of resources to produce…

2: High-mass/velocity kinetic-kill weapons. Take an asteroid, strap a high-power rocket on it, and accelerate it into the Earth’s gravity, at the proper speed to impact on the point you wish. Or if you wanted, maybe manufacture 100-200 ton missiles like that, just a rocket, fuel supply, guidance system, and a few hundred tons of armor on the front. Systems like this would be slower to deploy than nukes (At least, untill systems like the NTR are developed enough), but carry similar devestation, and with no fallout or radiological effects (Except for a small microwave pulse upon re-entry, IIRC. Though a NTR would introduce -some- radioactive matter into the mix, not that it’s stopped anything in the past, Ex. depleted uranium ammunition). Without the highly radioactive nature of nukes, and without the negative association nuclear weapons already have, I can imagine they would be much more likely to be used than nukes would, too…

But this is also assuming just direct weapons. Biological weapons can get especially nasty. Engineered viruses (Or possibly even nanotech “viruses”) could be more devestating. Boost up the reproduction and contagiousness of a virus, as well as making it resistant to mutation (If possible), but make it non-damaging under most cases… Then give it a trigger. Make the trigger whatever you’d like; A set time, some rare but harmless chemical, a certain string of enzymes, etc. Just give it enough time to spread through a population, then introduce the trigger; The triggered virus triggers all the others that it comes into contact with (Maybe it excretes that enzyme once triggered, or something like that), and the entire population gets sick almost simultaneously.

The Crane technique.

“. . . If done properly, there is no defense . . . .”

Only if your enemy is Kang and Kodos

I’d say engineered viruses and bacteria would be the most effective weapon. Tamper with the food and water supplies of the enemy and add some subtle non toxic chemical to them. Design the organisms to break down any living thing that has that chemical in them. You’d also have to make the bacteria with some kind of genetic flaw so they die out completely after a few hours or things could get out of hand.

The ultimate weapon of our time would be the HAARP.

It is some kind of geophisical accellerator.

Read about it here.

It could be the most dangerous weapon ever imaginable.

A weather machine. MUHWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!