Oh, and this triple point drains to the Atlantic from Montana??? I’m afraid you are wrong. Read http://www.acsu.buffalo.edu/~insrisg/nature/nw99/headwaters.html
Better yet, you could take her to the Mackenzie River, drop her in at Hay River, and tell you you’ll meet her in Tulita. See if that teaches her anything. Dummy head.
Welcome, Raygun99.
3waygeek that was why there was a question mark behind it.
And just how close to Beagle Dave and I are you?
I’m 15 blocks up from the river on the Iowa side.
One of me is enough, thank you very much. We can’t both be right if you ever disagree with me, and I was here first!
Lindy said “Triple Divide Peak” not “Triple Point”.
Well, aren’t we condescending? If you define the Gulf of Mexico to be part of the Atlantic Ocean (and it is), then yes, water drains to the Atlantic from Montana. Who peed in your Cheerios? :wally
PS–Thanks, Jeff!
Oh, and mind explaining to me how water can drain to the Pacific Ocean from a state that’s east of the Continental Divide?
The NW corner of Montana is west of the Continental Divide. It’s makes up the southern portion of the BC/Alberta border, which is ‘over’ Montana at Waterton Park.
Just to clarify here - the St. Mary’s River forms part of the border between Florida and Georgia, and it zig-zags south, then north, before going east to the ocean. The St. Johns River is 310 miles long and is one of the longest north-flowing rivers in the country. I learned to sail on the St. Johns, and I drive along it every day enroute to work.
Gee LindyHopper. you’re the one claiming I was wrong to state that there was a point in Minnesota that divided the watersheds of the Arctic, the Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico. I DID NOT MENTION THE PACIFIC OCEAN . There is, just as I stated and defined and I backed it up. So don’t go telling everyone you’re fighting ignorance when you’re just spreadinfg it.
Jeff, the issue is whether my original statement of a point in Minnesota dividing the watersheds of the Arctic, the Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico exists or not.
I don’t need a cite to prove that only one point exists dividing the watersheds you described. Only a moron would believe that there is more than one such point. I NEVER challenged that.
Yes. Exactly (part of) my point. Water can flow to the Pacific from (parts of) Montana, whereas it cannot from (any part of) Minnesota. And it can flow from (parts of) Montana to the Atlantic, despite some of the state being west of the Continental Divide.
Or was that a response to grienspace in support of my point?
Oh and Lindy you may have missed my previous post, at the end of page 1. but I would like to add that I’m not prepared to accept the Gulf of Mexico is actually in the Atlantic unless Anyone can provide a cite that it is. This point is crucial to your subsequent claim that some Montana water drains into the Atlantic.
Is the Mediteranean in the Atlantic as well ?
There is a distinction between a gulf and a sea. A gulf is a part of an ocean or sea extending into the land, and a sea is a body of salt water of second rank (an ocean being first rank) more or less landlocked (as in the Mediterranean sea).
Source: Merriam-Webster Online.
So what ocean is the Gulf of Mexico part of?
Actually, the Monongahela River starts in Fairmont, WV and flows NORTH to Pittsburgh where it joins with the Allegheny River to form the Ohio.
Visual proof…show it to her on the map!
Am I the only one giggling about the discussion between Lindy and grienspace? Perfect example of the OP.
The Carribean sea? Seriously now, one only needs to look at Florida fishing regulations that make distinction between Atlantic and Gulf caught species to determine that the language usage clearly ends the Atlantic Ocean at the tip of Florida… Unlike the Gulf of Alaska, the Gulf of Mexico is clearly defined by the adjacent continent, Yucatan Peninsula, Cuba and the Florida Keys.
Now when are you going to admit that you jumped the gun and were in error by claiming I was wrong in your initial challenge of my point in Minnesota?
Good cite Raygun99 . Very interesting. I never knew that the Ukraine had an Atlantic ocean port. Well if the CIA says so, who am I to argue?
greinspace, maybe you should have cited something more specific? Took me a while to figure out what you were trying to say with that link. Here’s the relevant bit:
grienspace: In light of Jeff’s snippet of the page you cited, I concede that water flows from the Minnesota triple point to the Gulf of Mexico, the Atlantic Ocean, and the Arctic Ocean.
You couldn’t be the only one. I certainly am.
And in light of Raygun99’s post, water does drain from Triple Divide Peak in Montana into the Atlantic Ocean (the Gulf of Mexico part).
OK, OK. So we’re both right.
Peace?