Unban Satan!

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Nope - I didn’t miss it. In particular, he mentioned how gracious it was that muffin in particular, since he’d been the object of Satan’s ire, stated he didn’t have a problem with his return. which was my point.

Not familiar w/kirkland’s banning twice. DIdn’t know him. Am familiar w/Coll and I don’t recall his being banned before, so if you have proof of either, bring it on.

and, again - with Satan his chances upon chances came before the ban - he knew it. They started publically warning him and did so repeatedly was my recollection.

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Unban Satan, huh? I dunno, I’d probably enjoy reading his posts if he were posting again, and if he got out of line at this point he’d be out of here so fast the snowballs would still be melting when he got home. Can’t say I feel very strongly about it though.

On the other hand, I really miss Libby’s (Drain Bead)'s posts, and if the only way to get her back is by unbanning Satan, it’s probably worth giving it a try.

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Hmmm…I keep trying to leave, and things keep happening.

A BANNED Member, removed for being a total asshole, who admits to being a sockpuppet user, and who is an all-around creep, is flaming me by proxy via his LiveJournal. And other Members do so too, since they are forbidden to do so here. And, surprise surprise - a supporter of his posts the link here so everyone can draw their attention to it.

And this isn’t “being a jerk”? :confused:

Yes, this truly is the finest hour of the SDMB. :rolleyes:

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Hey asshole, people are forbidden from flaming you here? Says who?

Oh, but I kid. :slight_smile: Am I misinterpreting you or what?

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Given that Ed has responded officially to Satan via email (I’ve just read Ed’s response in Satan’s LJ, I’m not sure that this thread serves any further purpose.

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I think he meant that as a way of saying “Thank you for your support.” I don’t think he meant that those that disagree with the OP are assholes or anything other than whatever. He appreciates the support.

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I’m sure he did tech. But I noted “you people rock”. then of course, made it a point to get a dig in at Anthracite (who in this thread, acknowledged she was wrong about the ‘weasle’ thing).

If his aim on the one hand was to extend the olive branch, show that he’s changed, and say thanks to the supporters, why, on the other hand, make sure he slapped (metaphorically) some one else?

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with “rallying” posts such as this. Let the voice of the people rise up. The administration can choose to be deaf to our entreaties, that is their prerogative… But it’s better to discuss our sentiments towards unbanning people rather than hiding them in the closet to fester.

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TubaDiva, for one, has warned me and at least one other person not to be flaming each other, sniping, or fighting on this Board, as it is juvenile, immature, and not fighting ignorance on all of our parts. And she was right to do so, too.

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And I still want to understand what “go through that” (to use ** wring’s ** phrase) * means. * Go through * what? * Unclebeer? Tuba? Coldie? Anyone? Are we talking some bitching about the banning? Some disagreement? People get downright fucking vicious here every goddamn day, what’s so scary about bringing back Satan being all humble and apologetic?

I have this mental picture of James Dean in “Rebel” “You’re tearing me apart!!” but I don’t get what the intolerable trauma is/was/could potentially be, and no one has yet really clarified it. We’re just getting versions of “It would be bad/polarizing.” Which sounds like some knees jerking.

Can we play the “what if?” game, please? What if Satan is reinstated? What is the worst that could happen? He becomes the same dick he was before and gets booted. A few folks show up to gloat, a few folks tell 'em to fuck off, and we all go back to talking about evolution, Buffy, and whether we pick our noses with our index fingers or pinkies.

What’s the big trauma everyone is so afraid of?

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I am not going to get involved in the “should they or shouldn’t they unban” debate, but I do want to say that AFAIAC the situation between the two of us is water long under the bridge. Life is much to short to hold grudges.

As I said in his LJ, if he is willing, I am more than ready to continue the friendship we initially began before the ugliness started.

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I really don’t feel like doing a search, but it is a fact that kirkland was banned twice. If you need further proof, I suggest asking a MOD or doing a search yourself.

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Anthracite, it’s over. It’s time to let it go.

What users do in other places has nothing to do with here. When I’m in Canada, I’m not bound by the laws of the U.S., and when people are on LJ, they aren’t bound by the rules of SD. If they want to act like jerks there, it’s allowed.

And it really can’t be healthy to hold that much anger for such a long time. :frowning:

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I pick my nose with my index finger.

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In all fairnes to all involved. I dig Anthracrite and she knows that. Was his comment out of line? Depends on the side of the octagonal fence you are on. It is highly possibly that he had not seen ALL the comments she had made before he wrote that.

I do consider Satan to be a friend as well. I do think that Anthracite had said more than she wanted to say, as she even stated. I don’t think he was upset by her words but didn’t understand her comments about “God” and such. They both have intense personalities that can be misread at times.

In either case, he called out those he appreciated the support.

Right or wrong for his post on Live Journal, he said his peace and I 'spose we can wrangle more about this but what will that really accomplish?

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stoid - when I used the term, what I meant was the sort of thing I went through w/an assholic ex husband.

He screwed up, hurt me, begged, pleaded, gave sincere apology, vows to reform and act better. I forgave.

Repeat a million times or so. The last time, I chose to not take him back. It’s been years. The venom is no longer there, the pain is no longer there, he’s made substantial changes, appologized sincerely again. And I’ve accepted his appology, feel that he’s changed.

and you couldn’t get me to take him back again. It simply wouldn’t be worth it.

I believe that the staff felt (it seems to me that they expressed great sadness at the time, over and over again) that they had no choice but to ban. I’m confident that in their consulations w/each other they pained over the decision “But what if he says he’s sorry and promises to not do it again” ‘But he’s said that over and over’. and there’s even a possability/probability that some of the mods/admins would like to have him back (that was expressed in the email).

But ‘what if’ they have him back and things go badly for him again and he goes through another tough time and starts acting out again? then they’d have to relive the entire thing.

when Coll was banned, I don’t recall a single person saying “they shouldn’t have done it”. but rather “yep, you could see that one coming from miles away, but I’ll miss him”.

with Satan and with Melin there were damn near armed camps (I wasn’t here for Melins but read about it) “no, they shouldn’t have”. Why in this very thread, we already have one person taking their bat and ball and going home.

That’s what I personally meant about devisive. Polarizing was another word used.

Think of Hillary Clinton. Most folk either love her or hate her with a purple passion to rival the ages. Polarizing.

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Yes, I was wrong on that part, and I apologized. However, those who preach forgiveness apparently don’t practice it themselves.

Why indeed? I was reading his post on LiveJournal, and saying to myself “You know…you’re probably wrong about him. He was a really smart guy at times, and once he was very cordial. Maybe you could just mail him and have a chat, and maybe mend- what the fuck? He’s flaming me in his ‘forgiveness’ post?”

Who knew?

Joe, with all due respect - when you can get him off my back now, and those people flaming me in his LiveJournal thread, then it will be “over”. Can you do that for me, Joe?

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Liz - How you doing! Jesus, it’s been too long. We must chat soon - I have some good news to tell you.

Anyhow - I couldn’t read the “comments” re: “God” on LiveJournal, because I could not access the LJ site earlier. I could only see what the “convenient” sock posted on the SDMB. Thus, I didn’t see the comments saying it was all a joke. Satan assumed that I had deliberately or negligently missed them, instead of applying Occam’s Razor. Why didn’t he give me the benefit of the doubt? And didn’t I self-depreciate the “god/goddess” thing in this thread?

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I was kidding, of course. I do hope Mr. C. doesn’t leave, though obviously I think the statement was a bit melodramatic.

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Una, you did, he may have not seen that post when he created his post on LJ. Which is why I said that. He may have completely washed his hands of this entire thread after he made his post over there and let this thread morph into whatever happens.

BTW, you still have my yahoo address right? I would love to hear your news. Or if you want, gimme a call if you still have my number!