Uninsured rate drops to lowest number since Obama took office

Why would I do that? I’m a Democrat. I voted for Obama, twice. I’m not just saying this because it’s the Republican agenda. I’m saying this because my health care options are now significantly WORSE than they were before.

Five years ago I could decide whether to fork out $$ for health insurance or $$ for something else–say, my tennis club and pedicures every three weeks. Now I can’t decide that. I have to fork out the $$ for health insurance.

How come your experience is so much better than mine? What’s your secret?

I think what we’ve got here is some kind of a classic thing. The insurance I had before was better for me, the insurance I have now is worse. Your situation is the opposite. But my situation is much more important to me than yours, sorry. The fact that I place my interests before yours does not make me ignorant.

Mistruths? No.

See the thing is, with my old insurance a single visit to see my primary care doctor was an affordable co-pay of $25, and now it is a budget-crushing $180. Actual figures. The exact opposite of your situation. The result is, the next time I see a doctor it will be when I’m old enough for Medicare.

I genuinely can’t tell whether that’s relevant until you add the cost of the insurance.

yeah because the tyrant is forcing people to buy insurance

if you started fining people for not owning a dog I bet the dogless rate would drop too

Prior to Obamacare, insurance on the private market for my wife and I ran to $1300 a month. We could not afford it. Now it is almost exactly 1/10th that sum (a little less, in fact) … quite affordable for insurance that is equivalent and maybe a little better than what we had.

Well I’m sorry you are taking a hit for my sake … but I don’t want to take a hit for yours. Are you sure you’re doing Obamacare right? In any event, don’t imagine that your experience is universal. it is not.

And neither is yours. Some people benefit, some people have been hurt.

Well, let’s see. Number of uninsured when Obama became president: 15.4M. Number of uninsured today: 15.9M. All hail Obamacare!

Wrong. The insurance on the private market is still $1300 a month. But now you’re getting a government handout.

So you used to pay “a budget-crushing $140” to see your doctor, and paid nothing for insurance, but now you pay roughly $130 a month to pay $35 to see your doctor?

Plus he’s paying the subsidy out of his taxes.

Really. I give up posh pedicures* so you can have affordable health care, and you come on this message board and accuse me of being an ignorant liar.

*Cheaper place, not as often

US population increase since January 2009: 7MM. Number uninsured when ACA passed: 16.4MM. Number uninsured when the exchanges opened: 18.0MM. Math!

You’re both wrong. Gallup is measuring percentages, not millions. There are actually about 48 million uninsured right now. With less than a month to go in the enrollment period.

WRONG. Obama didn’t take office until the number of uninsured was over 16 million. Thus the thread title – the uninsured rate really has dropped to the lowest number since Obama took office.

All hail the ACA :slight_smile:

It’s fair to say that ACA has gotten more people covered than otherwise would have been. It’s also fair to say that ACA is falling far short of expectations and incredibly short of the promises made to sell it.

It’s not universal health care. It’s basically SCHIP for adults.

It’s not fair to say this, unless you just mean “at this moment, the ACA has not accomplished all of its goals”. This is the infancy of the implementation of the ACA, and right now the trend is in the right direction.

Leaving 40 million uninsured after the first enrollment period doesn’t strike me as particularly successful by any metric, even accounting for it being only the first year and all. The law is designed so that every single citizen and legal immigrant gets health insurance or pays a penalty.

What changes in year two that would make the 40 million uninsured enroll when they didn’t feel like doing it this time?

The percentage of uninsured is going down, and fast. If it continues to go down, year after year, by a significant amount, then the law is a success.

You’re just defining failure in a way to ensure the law meets the definition. It’s ridiculous.

You’ll notice I’m not calling it a success (yet). It’s far from perfect.

But your analysis is just fantasy-world stuff from Fox News, who will call it a failure no matter what happens.

Aaaaaaaaand loving it!