Dear Unregistered Bull
In worrying about the state of my soul, I think I’ll take my lead from the good Lord’s approval of the animal kingdom as a Good Thing, thanks.
And further worrying about the state of my soul, I’m refraining from expressing my thoughts about you.
According to Unregistered Bull’s logic, they hate people and care only about animals. If they cared about people at all they would have been regular doctors, not veterinarians. :rolleyes:
I’m a female, thanks. And if you had read my post correctly, you would have noticed that my focus was on the child having lost everything he owned, possibly having lost friends and relatives as well, being separated from his dog.
And thanks also for not being able to consider another person’s point of view, just like our good friend Unregistered.
That evil bastard! Wasting resources on irrelevant animals!!!
What does it change? In what way him being separated from his dog could change anything after having seen (I assume) hours of footage of children living in dire condition, reports about drowned people, footages of the complete deestruction of a whole area, bodies lying around and so on… That’s a complete mistery for me.
You stated that that you couldn’t relate to the people appearing on the footages until a dog was involved. I can’t relate to you.
I posted an incident about an animal in a thread about animal rescue. Am I now obligated to post about the rest of the news footage in all the other hurricane threads as well?
I just find it strange why someone feels the need to climb into their Throne of Moral Judgement, passing conclusions and judgements on other people’s conviction. What is more bewildering is the condemnation of good deeds.
Unregistered Bull here is very pragamatic. People is the only things that matter. So we shall save all people to exclusion of animals. Of course, it would be nice if we could save all, but that’s impossible. But why, Unregistered Bull, is anyone going out of his way to pick up a poor drowning kitten or a dying dog be consdered as heinous sinner?
It’s not like “Okay, your wife and your dog has fallen into river and you can only save one. Choose!” Of course, most people would want to save the dog too. It also depends on the situation. I guess between Osama and poor Fluffy, the choice is pretty clear.
Well it’s true that animals shall have a second priority, but can Unregistered Bull or anyone else who condemns the saving of animals prove that animals have been saved to the exclusion of humans? Even if so, is that an isolated incident? Can we safely say that actually, more humans are being saved than animals? Is there any reliable figure that the fundings and help for saving of human is being compromised because some people chose to contribute to animal humane societies?
Ask any of the Dopers with cats and dogs and other assorted non-human kins within their family. To you, they are just animals. To them, they are heartbroken when they are lost. It’s not just losing an animal. It like losing a close friend. Things can be seemed from a variety of perceptive. I think animals have their place in society, and how we treat them reflects something about us.
If I am picked up by a stranger, out from a disaster area, and passed by a dog with a broken leg, I would want to the driver to pick up the dog. If the stranger says thing alone the line of “The seat shall be reserved for the next living human being. It’s a waste of resource to pick up the dog, to take up space that would otherwise be filled with a living human being.”
I rather get out and be with the dog, thank you.
I think we have a celebrity on the SDMB.
Ted Nugent.
Based on other posts on the SDMB, UB has an almost unhealthy obsession with his distaste of animal rights of any sort. We can pit him all we want, but based on his beliefs (generally anti-animal rights, anti-liberal, anti-anything to the left of Ann Coulter), we’re not going to change his mind. He’s a professional far-right-wing, anti-anything but far right-wing-arsenal-owning-Repubican-human troll.
It’s okay to use chickens as live footballs.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5095326#post5095326
Blowing up a rabbit isn’t animal cruelty.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5129414#post5129414
All those supporting animal rights are part of a “lunatic fringe.”
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5146641#post5146641
Internet hunting is just fine, although probably not that much fun.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5539082#post5539082
Fights between dogs and hogs? “Perfectly normal sporting uses of animals.”
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5635409#post5635409
Dislikes those supporting animal rights more than criminals; “trully mentally derranged and an absolute cancer on world society”.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5591848#post5591848
Animals have absolutely no right to be alive.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5588168#post5588168
Those who don’t like hunting “are bigoted haters who can’t stand a certain people who are culturally diferent than them”
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5852997#post5852997
FWIW, I have no problem with most hunting, even though support animal rights.
Animal fighting by certain groups in the US is a valid way of expressing one’s cultural identity.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5647515#post5647515
Oh yeah, if you have a problem with animal abuse as a cultural practice, you’re a racist.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6046171#post6046171
Barking dogs at the pound should be killed.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5946243#post5946243
If you have second thoughts about putting down a dog, you’re a pussy.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=5938017#post5938017
Vivisection of a live dog? Cool.
http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=6168594#post6168594
That’s par for the course from someone who thinks the SDMB is “full of extreme far left wing idots” (sic).
In his favor, some of his posts express anger towards irresponsible and inconsiderate pet ownership; mainly those who let their animals roam free. He also posted an effective deskunking formula.
I hereby make a vow(all you Dopers are my witnesses), that if I can win the lottery tonight I will make a donation of $100(maybe more would be better?) each time Unregistered Bullshit makes one of their hateful posts. I’d still have plenty left over for people-related charities, and I’d create a real dilemma for UB. “Hmmm, do I post one of my smug, holier than thou, screeds, and thereby have someone waste resources on animals? Or do I shut my stupid mouth and fume privately? Decisions, decisions!”
Of course it’s a 1 in 146,107,962 chance I’ll have to follow through though! 
But if I do, drinks are on me tonight! Admission to the party will be a big bag of dog or catfood!
5-11-20-28-29 (32) C’mon, baby, doggie needs a new flea collar!
Why is it a mystery? When someone looses something they love, it’s a loss. When it’s a life that you are responsible for, it makes it much, much worse.
:smack: 'Course I meant to say that the promised donations would go to animal related charities!
I would think that he already donates to certain animal-related organizations.
No, you misunderstood–I didn’t say Unregistered Bull was a cockfighter…
I’m very surprised that UB has not been warned, suspended or banned for his behavior in the linked threads. It seems he is always just an ass hair away from “getting the business” and then turns tail and craps all over another thread.
In this one, he admits to shitting on the other thread, but doesn’t apologize…that is utter crap IMO. UB seems to get in over his head, leaving his greatest retort a re-hash of his first post…with more profanity. :rolleyes:
To that boy, it would have made all the difference in the world to be able to keep his dog.
Where, in any of this train wreck are people expressing more compassion for animals than humans?
Show us that.
…
You can’t, because it isn’t there.
You shat on people that are doing the best they can to help in the best way they can.
First, in direct response to the above, you are creating his “obsessive hatred of animals.” At most, I think he has shown an obsessive hatred of people who believe that animals have a certain level of inviolate rights, in particular when compared with humans. It is apparently very difficult for most people here to understand or agree to, but it is quite possible to hold the position that Unregistered Bull holds and not have any “hatred” of animals.
Second, tothe repeated posters responding with, “Oh yeah, well what have you done.” That is completely irrelevant to determining whether the decisions of one particular person were correct or not. So if we are debating whether the analysis is correct, what Unregistered Bull or anyone else has done other than the actor at question has no bearing. Otherwise, I hope we do not start analyzing actions based on the question of, “Okay, but have you done better?”
Nonsense. There is absolutely no limit to the number or type of living creatures we can have sympathy for.
I agree with the last clause above: it’s possible to oppose animal rights and not hate animals. Hell, it’s possible to espouse animal rights and not love animals–Peter Singer doesn’t have pets because he doesn’t particularly like them.
However, Bull isn’t showing an obsessive hatred of folks who believe that animals have a certain level of inviolate rights: he’s repeatedly lying about people’s positions in order to pretend that they’re animal rights advocates, and then hating them. Repeatedly, anyone who expresses any compassion for animals bears the brunt of his contempt, regardless of whether they’ve expressed any belief in the rights of animals.
Do you see the difference?
If he was expressing contempt for animal rights advocates , he’d just be a garden-variety partisan schmuck. It’s his contempt for anyone who mentions the word “dog” in a context other than “I shot one on my farm” that makes him so special.
Daniel
Exactly. I think the concept of animal rights is stupid. However, I love my dog, and am on record as saying that under certain circimstances I would value the life of my dog over the life of a human. (Depends on the human, of course.)
Needless to say, I think UB is an ass.