On the Twelfth Day of Shutdown, my True Love gave to me -
Twelve Interns fighting
Eleven Pubbies grumbling
Ten Texans rumbling
Nine Ladies lunching
Eight Moderates milling
Seven Spokesmen mumbling
Six Teabags dangling FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIVE GOOOOOOOOOOOOoooOOOOOLD RIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINGS
Four Reporters typing
Three iPhones
Two Camera Crews
and a Black Guy in the President’s Chair
I’m thinking of dumping my True Love. To be honest with you.
So yesterday’s deal with the house is going nowhere. Boehner, who enjoyed Chinese for lunch, says there’s been no deal.
The Senate deal mentioned there refers to a plan led by Susan Collins and a bipartisan group in the Senate to extend the debt ceiling through January and delay the Medical Device Tax by two years, picking up funds instead via “pension smoothing”.
Eddie Cantor is not a fan of that plan, hoping the Senate Republicans will stand strong with their House brethren. Also not a fan: Paul Ryan and Ted Cruz. Speaking at the ongoing Values Voters event, they said that Pubs need to stay strong and never stop working to repeal Obamacare.
House leaders are worried they’re going to get stuck holding the bag for whatever the Senate comes up with. They might be right to be worried about that, too.
Senate Dems are probably going to kill the Collins plan, though, saying it asks for too much and gives too little. They object to both the funding levels and the short term restart -
Reid and McConnell are going to try and work something out later today. Don’t hold your breath.
Although the current Collins plan is probably dead in the water.
The Senate is considering what they can come up with to get us out of this mess. If they can find a plan that gets buy-in from the Senate as a whole, and buy-in from the President, then that leaves the House Republicans all on their own to hold the line against Obamacare. The Republican Representatives are concerned that a Senate plan which is acceptable to everyone else won’t be acceptable to their hardline voters and they’ll be accused of a) caving to Obama and being RINOS while b) harming the US economy and business interests.
So a Senate plan can’t force the House to do jack but it turns up the heat on them to find a solution, any solution.
They can’t but the Senate needs to look like they’re legitimately trying here. The House may be safely gerrymandered but the Senate is not and right now the situation is destroying the chances for a GOP Senate takeover.
The House leadership is (rightfully) worried about the optics when the Tea Party folks refuse to accept a Senate compromise and the story is “Deal agreed to by White House, Senate Dems, Senate GOP and House Dems is blocked by GOP House extremists”.
I seriously doubt it, and frankly i think it is terribly silly to derail the actual negotiations with the person that can actually do something to do something pointless like this.
The Apostle of Pep! I’m not even sure what I was thinking about when I wrote his name down.
I’m not sure there ever was a vote on Collins’ plan. I think it was just being floated out there and was met with a mighty “meh” from all directions. Later in the day, there was a vote on a different Decomcratic-led Senate proposal to start work on a plan but it was defeated 53-47. (And if you just said - wait, but the Democrats got a majority of the votes, well, welcome to Morning Hangover in America.)
It’s ok, though! Harry and Mitch are talking it over!
Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. /cosby
More about it from the WSJ -
Just in case Reid’s bubby enthusiasm is too saccharine for you, here’s Morgan Griffth (R-Va) to ruin your evening:
I don’t get it. Why doesn’t this seem to mean anything: “'At the end of the day, you’re fighting legislation that’s already passed,” said former South Carolina Republican Party Chairman Katon Dawson…"’
Isn’t that important - as in key?
Like it or not, ACA is a done deal. It’s a LAW already. Everyone keeps glossing past that, and why? If some don’t like it, shouldn’t they be following due and proper process in revising, repealing, etc. - instead of OBSTRUCTING the law and jeopardizing the economy to boot?
The funding issues shouldn’t be cropping up now; the time for that has passed. Once it’s a LAW, how can a handful of people take it into their own hands? Can’t they be held in contempt or something? Are there any real experts out there that can shed any light on this? What are the legal facts? I’ve found hardly any mention on that, and I just don’t get it.
Actually, the whole thing is practice - next they’ll be working on overturning Amendments without going through the usual process; parts of the First, and the Thirteenth.
Of course it is. Then the Tea Party nuts counter with “Prohibition was a law! And the Fugitive Slave Act!” which, aside from the inanity of comparing the ACA to the Fugitive Slave Act, ignores the fact that neither law/amendment was repealed by refusing to do legislative work and instead threatening to shove the nation into economic collapse.
Well, there’s nothing that says laws can’t be repealed once they are passed. Not many people approve of this tactic, but it’s silly to imply that it’s somehow illegal. As for what can be done, did you not see this thread in GD?
