Spavined Gelding:
Speak for yourself! I’ll be a Maoist until they surgically strike my position turning me into components of GLWasteful.
Or until the Bolsheviks come up with a cooler jacket, whichever comes first.
Waste
No, since I don’t agree with anarcho-syndicalism in the first place.
How would it be an act of solidarity? Because the Democrats still claim to be “the party of the American worker”? Because John Kerry is the multimillionaire marginally less hostile to honestly progressive issues? Because union bureaucrats endorsed him? There is no reason to vote for the Democrats that is not all form and entirely devoid of content. It’s lip service to the concept of solidarity and nothing more.
Ah, now I understand! That’s why Israel is the most notoriously communist country!
Well, aside from the Bolshevik part, that’s a pretty good snapshot of my political views. 
oh, and Olentzero, I don’t mean this as a hijack, but do you know how much money/clout it takes to run a national campaign? Could you please show me the last presidential candidate that was NOT stinking rich?
Personal wealth and party wealth are not necessarily the same thing.
Aren’t most of those outsourced jobs going to China, a communist country? You would think the CPUSA would want their fellow communist to be better off. Also, outsourcing helps spread wealth from very wealthy countries to poorer countries. You would think communist would want world-wide income distribuation to more equal, yet protectionist policies like this would hurt income equality. I guess the CPUSA isn’t that communist. 
Oh, come off it! A rudimentary bit of digging at the Communist Party’s website would have given you plenty of examples of how their agenda differs from the Democrats’. I provided one myself in the link above. Your pretense of innocent curiosity is unconvincing.
A dishonest argument in defense of a dishonest administration. Typical.
Abraham Lincoln.
I’m well aware of how much money it takes to conduct a campaign, but as far as the Republicans and the Democrats are concerned it’s not all out of the individual candidate’s pocket, either. They get federal election funding based on their share of the national vote from the last presidential election (if I’ve read the Presidential Campaign Funding Act correctly) and, of course, millions in donations from supporters. My point in bringing up the fact that Kerry is a multimillionaire (even though it’s mostly his wife’s money) is to underline the fact that he is most definitely not a working-class American and is therefore not very likely to have the same political and social interests they do. He’s a bosses’ man and always will be.
SallyStar, your logic is highly suspect. For example, if you and I agree on the top three reasons why OJ Simpson should be in prison, does that mean that you and I are the same, or think the same about justice, jurisprudence, or Naked Gun movies?
That is complete nonsense. Socialism/Communism is an economic system. Its opposite is Capitalism. Fascism is a political system. Its opposite is Democracy.
Furthermore, Capitalism (i.e., the economic right) is incompatable with Fascism. You really can’t give people economic freedoms while restricting their political freedoms. On the other end of the economic spectrum, it’s easy to see that you can’t have a centralized economy and still give people political freedom. People generally aren’t inclined to vote to have the fruits of their labors taken away from them arbitrarily. This is why all of the most successful Communist societies have been extremely totalitarian (e.g. Soviet Union, China, Cuba).
I suspect that the whole “Commies left, Nazis right” scheme was invented by the left to try and force people to identify with them. If you’re not leaning to the left to some degree, you’re a Fascist! But anyone with any level of political awareness can see that the scheme falls apart under scrutiny.
My statement was perhaps an oversimplification. My intent was to show that the further left you go, the closer to socialism you get.
“We are going to tax the wealthy and make sure you get what you need”. Income redistribution.
“We are going to regulate the piss out of your business”. Government control of private assets.
“We are for you, little guy, not those evil corportations”. Class warfare against the elite.
Other concepts such as a comprehensive social service system could also be considered socialistic in nature. Concepts such as affirmative action could be seen as attempts to artificially influence the free market.
And here I was agreeing with everything you said until this.
It may or may not be true that it was invented by the left - it seems likely - but to “try to force people to identify with them”? Come on. The reason I see for it is in response to the demonization by the right, equating all of the left with evil Communists (a ploy which continues to this day - cite? This thread). Don’t try to play the victim.
There are a number of things that the Right shares with Nazism, but more things that they do not share, economic systems being one of the more major ones. I suspect that the comparison most likely spawned from the rising civil rights movement, and the Right’s position against it.
The Nazis were mostly within the “right” in the context of German politics in the 1920s and 1930s. It doesn’t mean that they share anything particular with the Republicans, Tories, or any other designated “right wing” party. “Right” versus “left” simply describes how a political party relates to the established order or the status quo. The right tends to either favor the status quo or call for a reaffirmation of traditions or past values. The left tends favors active social change and a rejection of the past to some degree.
In many ways, style rather than substance, dictates this. The Nazis and Fascists were “right wing” largely because they declared themselves to be so. They were anti-leftist and allied in general with traditional conservative movements before taking power.
I have heard of certain communists described as “right wing” in the context of Soviet or Chinese politics, with people advocating laissez-faire capitalism in Communist countries branded “leftists”. But Communism within a capitalist society invariably is part of the left.
So, does this mean the CPUSA is urging Communists to vote for Kerry, instead of the Communist candidate? (I think they always run a candidate for president, just on general principles.) If so . . . the Communist vote is not likely to make any difference, there are so few of them, and our Electoral College system is winner-take-all by state, and any state with any Communist presence at all is likely to be a “blue” state that Kerry will win anyway. But every little bit helps.
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SallyStar**, how many of the same beliefs do you and I have to have before we become the same person?
Not surprisingly, the Conservative Republicans amongst us have failed to think things through.
So the Communists declare their support for creating jobs, building schools, bridges, roads and hospitals, public health care and education, protecting retirement funds, not giving tax cuts to the wealthy, civil rights, opposition to racism, equality between men and women, opportunities for immigrants to enter mainstream American society, protecting the enviroment, opposition to nuclear war, freedom of speech, and funding firemen and police.
As the OP points out, the Democrats also support all of these things. Obviosuly the Democrats and Communists are the same.
Fortunately there’s another choice. They are, after all, people who are opposed to creating jobs, building schools, bridges, roads and hospitals, public health care and education, protecting retirement funds, not giving tax cuts to the wealthy, civil rights, opposition to racism, equality between men and women, opportunities for immigrants to enter mainstream American society, protecting the enviroment, opposition to nuclear war, freedom of speech, and funding firemen and police. And, as the OP points out, the Republicans are against all these things as well.
So I guess the choice is clear: if you support the things listed in the OP, vote Democrat or Communist (it apparently makes no difference). If you don’t support these things, vote Republican.
I assume you are talking to/about me in this particular thread, Little Nemo. If I’m wrong, forgive me. What exactly did I say that you disagree with?
Huh? I was talking about the OP. I thought my intent was clear. Sorry.
Anyway, here’s what I was saying minus the irony. It’s true that there is an overlap between the Communist and Democratic party platforms. There are certain ideas that virtually every political party supports. Despite the satirical content of my previous post, I realize the Republican party also supports the same ideas as the Communists and the Democrats. Defaming the Democrats by linking them to the Communists, without pointing out that the exact same linkage exists with the Republicans is an ad hominen attack and unworthy of serious discussion.
Huh? I didn’t think the Republicans had a top 10 reasons to defeat Bush.
Sally, please clear up something for me so I know what level we’re working on. Do you honestly not understand what I’m saying or are you just pretending not to understand in order to avoid having to address it?