USA Communist Party's top 10 reasons to defeat Bush in '04?

From the Communist Party, USA web page …

I don’t see a single issue in the CPUSA top 10 relative to Bush where they differ from the US Democrats. On what political issues, do the Democrat’s and Communist’s differ that make them separate political organizations?

I suspect they might have a “slight” disagreement about property rights, no?

Remember the old adage…

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

There have been stranger bedfellows.

There are lots of folks from all over the political spectrum, including some that one could fairly characterize as “right-wing,” who think that the Bush Administration is one of the worst in our history, and for many of the same reasons. That doesn’t mean that they’re all the same. Trying to lump them all into one pile is a bit of stretch, to put it kindly.

If you look up “irrelevant” in the dictionary you will find the CPUSA logo.

I wasn’t aware that the Democrats were in favor of nationalizing all major industries … . :rolleyes:

You can read about the Communists’ vision for the United States in a different part of the same website:

http://www.cpusa.org/article/static/13/

SallyStar, your attempted smear against the Democrats is ludicrous and dishonest.

It seemed to me that the TOP 10 reason’s to defeat Bush in '04 were almost identical to the Democrat’s. I don’t know the odds, maybe (1/2)^10. Wasn’t sure if the other issues on which the Communist and Democrat’s differ were enough to keep the party’s separate. No smear intended, just the facts …

Yes.

That’s right Sally, all us Democrats are secretly, deep in our heart of hearts Commies. Worse than Communists, we are frothing at the mouth Bolsheviks lusting for white women, the eight hour day and socialized medicine. Give me a break, already.

But you haven’t shown that Sally. All you’ve got is the commies top ten list. Without a democrat top ten list to compare it to, you cannot assert that the two lists are “almost identical.” How do you define almost identical anyway? If something is number one on one list and 7 on the other, is that “almost identical” or do they have to be in the same position? What if there are only 7 identically phrased statements on the two lists? Do the three that differ affect the almost identicallity of the other seven? What’s the standard deviation of your identity?

Chill out, and look up the definition of ‘seemed’.

You are assuming odds for random events. Has it ever occurred to you that the list is generated for the specific purpose of deceiving people into that the CP is more mainstream than they really are?

Obviously, the Communist Party is trying to project a moderate image in this particular list. I would even bet this is a conscious attempt to demonstrate that they are no further from mainstream political discourse than Democrats. I think there also needs to be some distinction between the Communist and Democrat platforms made, aside from the property issues that have been mentioned. For instance,

The Democratic party has not actually come out against American military involvement in Iraq, even though many of its members have. If I understand John Kerry's position correctly, he opposes any early withdrawal, and perhaps would even raise troop levels in Iraq. Of course he could change his stance between now and November, or events in Iraq could make any current position unrealistic by then. Kerry, Gephardt, Edwards, etc. simply maintain that the occupation was poorly planned and implemented, not that the war in Iraq was illegal or groundless.

Personally, when I see the communists attack others on environmental issues or pollution, I can only think of how awful some of the industrial cities in Poland, the former Czechoslovakia, and Romania were - not to mention Chernobyl. Also I don’t think Communist countries were ever big on gay rights, civil liberties, and free speech. Does Fidel Castro know one of his brother-parties supports these ideas? Its obvious that the CPUSA is attempting to sound as innocuous as possible, but this list is largely a complete sham - if they truly are a Communist Party.

I also believe that the Green Party would have an identical list, and the Libertarians would agree with points 5-10 to varying degrees (especially #9 and # 10). Does that make them fellow travellers too?

(bolding mine)

Um, I gathered the sarcasm in the rest of your post, but, um, what the hell? Where did THAT come from? I was not aware that Bolsheviks lusted specifically for white women (especially considering that most of their compatriots were white women)…

Eight hour day and socialized medicine I could go for, though. :wink:

From Socialism USA (official Communist Party USA document):

From the 2000 Democratic Party Platform:

Aaah, but you forget that bolshevism is an international Jewish conspiracy, see?

I agree with 8 through 10, and half of 7.

Hi. I’m the Straight Dope Bolshevik.

I wouldn’t vote Democrat if you paid me. How does that fit into your neat little theory, Sally?

Well, of course not! But would you vote Democrat to further the cause of anarcho-syndicalism, or as an act of solidarity with the industrial proletariat?

Come on folks.

The further left you go, the closer to socialism and communism you get. The further right you go, the closer to facism you get.

Anyone that has any level of political awareness knows that.