USA vs. Honduras Gold Cup

Did anyone watch this last night? I realize it’s our B team, but God were they awful. When one of your best players is Kyle Beckerman, you’ve got a problem. Beckerman is a decent to good MLS player, but not an international.

Freddy Adu seems to have peaked and is now regressing. He had one nice touch but did nothing else while he was out there. I don’t think he deserves a spot on the A team right now. When Charlie Davies replaced him in the second half, the game changed completely and the US scored both of their goals. 20 minutes of Davies was far better than 70 minutes of Adu.

The difference between watching this team and the one that just played in South Africa is like watching a pub team after seeing Manchester United.

Honduras could easily have won this game 4-2. They shredded our defense in the first half.

I’m not watching the games in large part because it IS our “B” team out there.

And we should note that they managed a better result than the “A” team did against Honduras just a month ago in a Hexagonal qualifier. So unless the Honduran team is also a “B” team, can’t say that they are any worse than the National “A” side. :smiley:

Honduras also had a B team, maybe B+.

The US is using the gold cup to figure out who can fill in holes and be subs for next years WC. We’ve got the starting 11 figured out except maybe Jermaine Jones and Edgar Castillo at left back. So far I think Robbie Rogers, Stuart Holden, and Kenny Cooper look like they can compete for a spot. Unless Adu gets a ton of playing time with his club and does well he should be done. He’s looked awful.

How about Benny Feilhaber though? When he came on he was by far the best player on either team. It wasn’t even close. I find it hard to believe that he wasn’t good enough to play on freaking Derby County.

I’m out of the country so haven’t been able to watch. Possibly for the best. Didn’t even realize that there’d been a thread on this until today. I guess tomorrow they’re playing Haiti in Boston. Maybe the knockout stages will get more interesting.

Also, apparently the Mexico v Panama game threatened to turn into a donnybrook?

Yes, the Mexico v Panama game was played as the second half of a double-header in Houston. This was not a wise scheduling move; the crowd consisted of 45,000 mostly rabid fans of El Tri who were all hyped up. In addition, the teams exhibited animosity towards each other right from the start, with several staredowns in the first half alone.

At the end of the first half, there was a hard foul by a Panamanian player, and a shoving match ensued. As a result, two players were sent off; the Panamanian who committed the foul, and a Mexican who retaliated. By this time, the game had been knotted at 1 - 1, which was the final score.

Things were not much better in the second half, though there were no yellow cards. With just over 10 minutes to play, a Panamanian player ran after a ball that went into touch right before the Mexican bench. Apparently, the Mexican head coach tripped the Panamanian (the coach said it was an accident, trying to stop the ball; the Panamanians believed otherwise). This resulted in a pushing match between the coach (Aguirre) and the player; both were then sent off. This left Panama with 9 on the pitch against Mexico’s leaderless 10. The crowd continued to be agitated, and fights began to break out between the few Panamanian supporters and the numerous Mexican supporters.

Just before time, a thrown water bottle struck the Panamanian goal-scorer, causing him to fall down in a heap on the pitch (soccer players have to be the least stable people known on the planet). When he was being stretchered off, he was hit again with a thrown water bottle. As the full time whistle blew, the Panamanian team huddled at the center of the pitch, while the authorities herded the spectators out of the stadium (Reliant Stadium).

In other words, it was normal Central American soccer, though not what we are used to seeing in America at our soccer games (we don’t have 45,000 fans who would get that rabid about ANY soccer team in this country; now, Philly fans…). While the Panamanian coach was livid, most of the Panamanian players seemed to be of the “eh?” frame of mind, with at least a couple that I read saying that “this is soccer.”

El Tri, btw, can be knocked out of the tournament if they lose to or tie Guadaloupe. Normally, that would be a laughable thought, but Guadaloupe has beaten both the Nicaragua and Panama teams, normally unthinkable results for that tiny island nation’s team. And Mexico haven’t exactly been on their game lately. Sunday should prove VERY interesting.

I thought that the ball was kept in bounds until Aguirre kicked the Panamanian in the groin. I don’t think it was intentional, but really WTF is he doing?

I’m watching U.S. v. Panama now. The game is about 30 minutes in and the U.S. C- team is looking decidedly mediocre.

Maybe I didn’t give Beckerman enough credit.

I guess we can use this thread title again for the semi-final.

Yeah, I didn’t really want to start another thread for the lackluster quarterfinal.

There’s been quite a bit of package kicking in this tournament. Kenny Cooper took a full-on boot to the gonads last night. I can’t believe he got up and took the PK afterwards.

So given the quality of players the US team sent, this isn’t so much the “Gold Cup” as the “Yellow Plastic Cup” ?

And what did people think of the officiating Saturday? Live, every call looked horrible to me, then on replay half of them looked correct, but the other half were still mystifying. So I’m not sure what to think.

I thought that there were a number of strange calls, particularly Davy Arnaud and Brian Ching seemed to be fouling the Panamanian defenders by being trampled. CONCACAF officiating is embarrassing.

I didn’t watch the game, but the flying kung fu kick on Cooper is a clear red. Cleats up into his groin? We had guys sent off for thinking that in the Confed Cup.

Also, how disappointing is it that the best performer this tournament (Beckerman) plays our deepest position?