Vandalizing the Vietnam Veterans Memorial does your cause no good, fucker!

Ah yes, all two of them in a three-year period.

Mr. Moto, you are an idiot. You come up with these bullshit OPs that are sometimes the latest wingnut gripe, or sometimes one of your own, but never turn out to be based on much of anything. You’re the boy who cried “dirty fucking hippie.”

Some people have a death wish. You’ve got a ridiculousness wish, I guess.

And how many GOP Congresscritters or SAOs have been convicted of crimes or resigned in disgrace in the past two years?? Now that’s baggage. The antiwar movement can’t remotely compare.

By my count, you’ve managed to list two incidents with a clear political message. There’s no apparent message or motive to either the Vietnam War memorial, or the Bay City Huey paintball vandalism. You say you’ve got plenty of other examples, but if this sample is representative of them all, you haven’t really proved much of anything, here. Particularly if, as I suspect, you skimmed the best stories from your secret list to make your point.

While I’m at it, I’m a bit confused as to how you’ve come to the conclusion that this is “more than general vandalism would account for.” How many war memorials have been vandalized since the start of the war? And how many war memorial were vandalized in a similar time period before the war started? Has there been a definite increase in such incidents of vandalism? Can you demonstrate as such?

No, and what would that mean?

Hattiesburg, MS.
Nogales, AZ.
Mount Pleasant, MI.
Beeville, TX.
Sacramento, CA.
The aforementioned Andover.

Now, it is clear something is going on. All of these stories are from 2007. The earliest is from May. If I go back further, I can come up with lots more.

I trust this won’t be necessary.

With the exception of the Andover incident, do any of these have links to the anti-war movement?

People vandalizing memorials and graves. I checked, and apparently this has been going on for hundreds of years. This cabal has been plotting against us for a very long time!
Seriously, Mr. Moto, what do events have to do with each other, and/or with the antiwar movement?

From the Beeville story:

Also, for those who speculate that the oil at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial wasn’t vandalism, I will point out that monuments at Gettysburg were recently vandalized in exactly the same fashion.

Now, this was done at Vicksburg in 1997 by a group of religious zealots. This might have been the case at Gettysburg, and for all I know might have been the case at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial as well.

I have stated earlier that I didn’t think these were explicitly linked - I still think that. If I erred in assuming the idiot who did this was an anarchist wannabe, I’ll retract that. If he turns out to be a religious nutjob, I’ll denounce him with equal fervor.

My pitting was over the acts, which I think we can all get behind, and given the incidents in Gettysburg and Vicksburg, I think the folks here insisting the acts at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial were not vandalism ought to drop that. Clearly it was.

From the link:

Yep, serious stuff that.

At the very bottom of the article, it does say:

One gets the distinct impression from the link that the vandalism to the park (no indication of vandalism to the memorial itself) was regarded as trivial compared to the spray paint on the walls of City Hall.

I’m not even gonna bother with the other links, if this is the pathetic, weak-ass shit you’ve got. You’re wasting our time, Mr. Moto. Apologize and call it a night.

Hey, I just said it might make the antiwar movement look bad. Never said much more than that, did I?

If there was any justice in the world the vandals would have done something to the “memorial by committee” abomination known as the WWII Memorial.

And how does thousands dead in Iraq make your President look? When come back, bring sense of perspective.

From your OP:

You were deliberately painting all war memorial vandalism as coming from the ant-war movement.

‘Recently’ being 1999.

So we’ve got two or three instances of this in a decade or so.

Yeah, because if someone deliberately spilled oil on monuments in 1997 and 1999, the current incident also is unquestionably deliberate vandalism.

Maybe it is and maybe it isn’t vandalism, but your argument vandalizes logic.

You are aware that people can still read your OP, right?

Yeah, the VFW is notorious for its violent attacks on Civil War protestors.

Remember that time the antiwar hippies vandalized Jefferson’s Camaro before the big game with Lincoln?

Clearly a pattern is emerging.

Not all. But when peace symbols are spraypainted on the Medal of Honor memorial, or “war, what is it good for” on a war memorial, conclusions can be drawn. And again, I was careful not to tie it in the OP to any kind of movement, as any movement would disavow such acts.

Still, if a clinic bombing can make honest and moderate pro-lifers look bad (and it can) then this stuff can make honest and moderate antiwar activists look bad as well.

Preferably with bulldozers, to force them to start over from scratch. Those who fought in WWII deserve something a hell of a lot better.

Well, Gettysburg was vandalized again last year, you know.

You compile a list of vandalism with unknown motives and toss in one instance with a sort-of link to an antiwar theme, and suddenly it makes antiwar activists look bad.

Fatuous liar.