The Coronaviris is a contagious ‘disease’ caused by a virus.
The American ‘vaping illness’ is direct damage to the lungs caused by chemical exposure.
How is it scaremongering? Where’s the purported conspiracy? All I am saying is perhaps the virus is like a normal flu virus unless you have bad lungs. And vaping with certain additives can give you bad lungs. Why would it be dangerous for someone to stop vaping with products with vitamin E acetate as an additive?
Except that is not the case. You don’t seem to be looking at the evidence presented. There are plenty of reasons to avoid vaping, but this isn’t really one of them.
What dataset are you talking about?
Now some experts are looking at vape lung as a cause for the freak out:
Was this the spread of my idea, or near simultaneous discovery?
Since the Chinese government did everything possible to hide, obfuscate, and dismiss the onset and severity of the virus, I would think very long and hard about waiting to hear from a second source rather than base any conclusions on a Wuhan University professor, i.e. a government employee, quoted in what Wiki calls “a daily tabloid newspaper under the auspices of the Chinese Communist Party’s People’s Daily newspaper.”
Propaganda works best when it tells people what they want to hear. They’ll stop investigating at that point.
Contrarily, the whole purpose of the Dope is to tear apart the propaganda and see it for what it is.
Your choice.
Turble - from my research I see no evidence that vaping and e-cigarette devices are tested by the FDA or any other government agency.
In fact, it appears that your industry has successfully delayed any FDA testing or regulation for several years.
https://www.statnews.com/2019/11/21/e-cigarettes-fda-hands-tied/
Besides the fact that article is saying that some vaping related deaths may be Coronavirus instead of the affects of vaping a tainted product (the opposite of the OP’s conjecture), here are some quotes from the actual article:
In other words, there is no evidence at all, just guesswork.
Exactly. The whole article boils down to: LOOK OVER THERE!
I am not sure why you think Turble is in the vaping industry or why you believe he has said anything about FDA testing, because he hasn’t. All he has said about vape liquids, correctly, is that the vitamin E6 palmitate-tainted vape liquids were black market THC vape canisters and that commercial nicotine-containing liquids were unaffected.
This is delusional
No. Because the “bad vape cartidges” were traced to people screwing around with them here in the US. There was a bust up in Kenosha, WI, for example, that involved a clandestine business manufacturing crappy THC cartridges using vitamin E acetate.
Yes, you are on the wrong track and no, you are not learning a lot. You are just doubling-down on this misbegotten conspiracy theory of yours.
First, I am NOT going to a site that makes me answer questions before showing me what you purport is “proof” of your whack-a-loon theory, especially when it asks permission to remember me for a month or more. WTF? Are you working to generate click revenue for those guys?
Second, based on what other people have said, those who were willing to click through the BS, apparently no, the patient’s condition is NOT what you’d expect from the covid-19 virus.
That’s not how it works. The “severe pneumonia” tends to develop very rapidly but go right ahead with your confirmation bias if it makes you happy.
ANY time someone shows up with an undiagnosed, severe illness without obvious cause “Is this contagious?” is always a question that comes up and must be answered one way or another. Seriously, dude, when I was hospitalized in 2005 with norovirus I was subjected to a fair number of quarantine measures.
OK, you read something about someone having “fever and a cough” and extrapolated that to OMG IT’S THE 2020 PLAGUE!!!
Chill, dude, you’re acting ridiculous.
^ This, Mr. Peebles, THIS.
When you won’t let this conspiracy theory go but keep posting about it? That’s scaremongering.
Apparently none of the actual REAL health experts and doctors are saying that so… you know, I’m going to believe medical professionals over you or some other random guy on the internet trying to dig up/distort facts to fit his pre-conceived conspiracy theory.
Yes. We know that.
Mr. Peebles, this statement does not even make sense. Please take a deep breath, calm down, and let this go.
Or is it someone (or a few people) in China trying to deflect and confuse the issue so that this pandemic is no longer associated so strongly with China in the minds of others? Because, you know, there couldn’t possibly be such an incentive there…
This should just be vitamin E acetate.
While a good concern in general, in this case the website in question is a cannabis distributor and the question is simply an age gate, the same as a brewery website asking whether you are over 21.
Perhaps you are unaware of the fact that where I live cannabis is still illegal? My local authorities would view going to such a site much the same as if I contacted someone selling heroin or pimping out whores.
Not that I expect those authorities to kick down my door and examine my search history, but NSFW sites should carry at least a warning and a brief description of what they are.
I don’t believe that. I’m sorry but I just don’t. Unless you were to actually attempt purchasing there is no evidence of intent to purchase marijuana, especially because the linked page is a news article and not a store page. It’s not a crime to research marijuana sales. Even in your example of contacting someone selling heroin, a crime has not been committed, or alternately an undercover officer would not be able to arrest until you move past asking “hey, you selling?” and actually initiate a transaction by asking for the product specifically or respond to a solicitation by offering money. And lastly, cannabis is still illegal everywhere in the US, notwithstanding local laws to the contrary. Plus it is also illegal for me to purchase cannabis even by local law, seeing as I don’t have a medical marijuana certificate, so that part just falls flat for me as well.
This. We live in a free country still. Researching information is entirely legal. I cannot understand what level of paranoia would make anyone think that the local authorities would have any difficulty with that.
Cleophus, Turble stated “The lung damage “epidemic” was not caused by nicotine e-cigarettes but by additives in black market THC devices. It was only in the USA; millions of vapers have been vaping e-cigs around the world for at least ten years.”
“The lung damage thing has nothing to do with vaping nicotine e-cigs. Just don’t buy THC from street corner sellers and flea markets.”
Turble’s statement sounds to me like it’s coming from someone with a vested interest who is defending the commercially available products.
My point is that we don’t know what the fuck is in any of these products, and I strongly suspect the motives of anyone who is so quick to defend the “safe” commercial products by placing all of the blame on the “black market” products.
I apologize if my impression is wrong - in the meantime feel free to puff away to your hearts content - just don’t do it around me. 
“At will” employment.
As I said - any NSFW work video should come with a warning. If someone was reading at work and clicked through to that they could indeed be fired.
It’s crass. It’s inconsiderate. Is it the most important thing ever? No - but hey, who cares if what you do causes problems for others.
End of tangent for me, you may continue to discuss amongst yourselves if you feel you must.