vaping lung damage and coronavirus

That’s essentially what the CDC is saying, although they can’t recommend using THC.

You said “local authorities,” not your bosses at work. You mentioned them kicking down your door, if only to dismiss it; again, such an action cannot be associated with your work site.

Certainly NSFW sites should be flagged, although it’s unclear to me whether a news page about a major news story is indeed NSFW. I’m sure various worksites would view it in different ways. To be honest I wouldn’t have flagged it either.

In short, your comments were confusing if you meant work and not the government. You may have known what you meant by your words but two posters here clearly read them differently.

So, do you suppose those six people who died in Washington state were vapers?

You know, these days decaf doesn’t taste too bad at all, really. Give it a try and see if it helps calm you down.

Do you really expect to see a study to have even started in the few months since Covid-19 was first diagnosed? Anything which compromises lung function puts someone at greater risk of death from Covid-19. Vaping compromises cilia cells (the very ones Covid-19 attacks) as well as alveolar macrophages which are crucial for cell damage mitigation and repair.

True, but there’s plenty of evidence that many of the people with severe COVID-19 cases have no connection to vaping, let alone vaping with vitamin E acetate. The OP’s conjecture was that COVID-19 isn’t a big deal, but it’s only serious when in combination with vaping related illness. This is demonstrably false.

If you have a compromised respiratory system, or one of many other illnesses, regardless of the reason, your chance of a severe case of COVID-19 is greater. I don’t think there’s anything controversial about that. But that’s not the point of the OP.

I see now you said Coronavirus and not Covid-19. Nevertheless, absence of evidence/evidence of absence and all that. And my point about lung function still holds.

Oh for sure. Early in his post the OP seemed to be asking if vaping could be a risk factor, but now I see in their last sentence they attempted to place far too much importance on vaping.

Oh for sure. Early in his post, the OP seemed to be asking if vaping could be a risk factor, but now I see I missed that last sentence that placed far too much importance on vaping in explaining this epidemic.

I have no connection to any e-cigarette business other than as a customer.

This post and your follow-ups are so bizarre you leave me speechless.

No, my conjecture is NOT “it’s only serious when in combination with a vaping related illness”. My conjecture is: it is not a monster virus, it is a run of the mill virus, and the reason a run of the mill virus caused the Chinese to freak out so dramatically, is that their population had a newly prevalent form of lung damage from vaping bad additives, just as black market vapers in the USA were noted to have by the CDC back in September 2019.

That still doesn’t make any sense given the illness and deaths we’re seeing in other nations.

EDIT: never mind.

I cannot find any evidence that China had the lung damage cases that the U.S. had. They made the suspect counterfeits, but apparently just for export.

You’re basing your entire argument on your imagination. There is no known connection between vaping lung damage and coronavirus. You have not found a single cite that says that. Why do you persist in this fantasy?

You want a cite? I posted this link before:

Some lung experts in Wuhan are now thinking very similarly. Others have noted it is kind of reversed, and interpreting them as saying “Hey, USA you found the vape lung, but the coronavirus may have been there too”. But I am willing to bet the Wuhan experts also have made the same conjecture for the genesis of the “freak out” as I have though. This is because the USA did not freak out when they noticed vape lung, and by any reasonable measure there was no reason to freak out, even if the coronavirus was there back then as the final straw sending the people with vape lung to the hospital. Because if the coronavirus was circulating then, it wasn’t causing alarming pneumonia after adjusting for vape lung. And if that is true, it is just a run of the mill virus, not a monster virus. To think of it another way: if the world realizes the coronavirus is a run of the mill virus and not a monster virus, and I bet they will, the question will become: why did the Chinese freak out? I think the answer will be “vape lung”.

If you actually read the article there is no evidence for the link, just conjecture. And the people looking haven’t presented any evidence to support this.

Except the evidence doesn’t support that. At all. Time to move on.

And not just conjecture but deflection. To me, this article from a state-sponsored communication, reads like an attempt to shift the focus away from China (and to the US).

Do you have any better cites than literal Chinese government propaganda? I think we should have higher standards in GQ that actual propaganda from a country looking to CYA.

Sigh. More than 60 countries on every continent except Antarctica have confirmed coronavirus cases. None except the U.S. had vaping lung damage cases. Yet all around the world health officials and governments are freaking out, closing schools, shutting factories, postponing crowd events. Why? How can everybody in the world except you be deluded on a matter of literal life and death?