“job creators”? And the Tooth Fairy, and the Great Pumpkin, and…
Yes, yes, there’s always Rasmussen to provide you guys with some scrap of comfort. If you want to call them a poll, go right ahead.
They pretty much do.
Go look it up and tell us. Maybe Rasmussen has the data.
Speaking of approval ratings, here’s where the years of teabagging, led by Ryan, have us with Congress:
Ah, I love the smell of overconfidence in the morning.
Well, Romney gave Democrats exactly what they wanted. So it’s served up, let’s see if you can hit it out of the park.
Ah, I love the sound of whistling past the graveyard.
Me too.
I don’t want to get into a point by point debate in this thread because I’m sure we will all do it in the days and weeks to come. Can Obama convince the swing voters that Ryan and Romney are the evil, scary guys that that posters in this thread make them out to be? Like I said. Game on. ![]()
So you’re *not *going to back up this “job creators” nonsense? Or this “We do TOO have a realistic plan!” nonsense? Oh well, if that’s going to come later, we’ll be looking. Do please let us know.
Well, the folks at Fark are having lots of fun with the Rolls Royce Ticket:
I specially like the “=” graphics, this one is one of my favorites:
Looks like Ryan won’t be tolerating questions from the public. Pretty pathetic little bitch- he couldn’t tell security to take it easy on the old guy?
Uh, that’s not taking a question, that’s being interrupted by a heckler. I guarantee Ryan will be answering more questions from the media and in town halls than Obama will.
That’s comforting, because your guarantees are so meaningful to me. Also your ability to measure “more” and “less.”
Don’t voters generally go with their gut? We already have the impression that Romney is a secluded rich guy who doesn’t stand for anything, now we have a smarmy rich kid who wants to cut your parents’ Medicare and has a tax plan too complicated for most of the electorate. No matter what the GOP want people to think about the Ryan tax plan, most people are going to be scared of it and scared of him. I’m not saying its ideal, but Dems don’t even have to show people what’s in the Ryan tax plan if they can just get people scared of it. If they do that, they win easy
Quite true. But Ryan can explain his plans and now he’ll have a bigger stage to do it on.
It would be hard to imagine that the Romney campaign didn’t focus group this to death. They probably found that when Ryan is able to be heard, he’s convincing.
Oddly enough, he has quite a decent stance relative to the rights of gay Americans. Or at least he did yesterday, we’ll have to see tomorrow.
Also, less attractively, a huge fan of St. Ayn of Leningrad. Until he found out she was an atheist, apparently. Clever little vixen, keeping that hid…
Bigger than what, the USA? Anyone who has as much political awareness as a dish of cottage cheese knows about the Ryan budget, which many Republicans see as full of bold and innovative ideas they wish to God he’d shut up about.
Well, Bill Kristol loveslovesloves it. Remind me, when was the last time he was right about something?
“Able to be heard”? Smuggling in a bit of innuendo, are we, Addy? Stifled by the liberal media, was he? Or was he hounded by Obamist operatives at various venues?
I’m sure they did, with severely conservative focus groups. Moderates and independents can’t be trusted.
You have pretty much everything in this post entirely backwards. A universal retirement program that’s rather more redistributive than the one we’ve got isn’t a transformation of it into a welfare program. A program which isn’t universal, but only pays benefits to the non-wealthy would be a welfare program. Removing the payroll tax cap is incredibly simple. Introducing a means test would be more complex. And there’s no way that the two could give the same result. The wealthy make a highly disproportionate share of income. They don’t get nearly as disproportionate a share of Social Security benefits. You’d have to cut off benefits well down into what most people consider the middle class to get anywhere near the same results.
Many of my most respected sources had been suggesting that the Troglodyte Right has been screaming for Ryan for some time. Romney can almost win by keeping his deranged base in line, but not quite. When he was fairly secure about that, place holders like Portman made sense. Nobody hates the guy they’ve never heard of.
But without that base he doesn’t even get close, so the Romnistas are hoping somehow to cement the extreme right and get 'em all fired up and still appeal to the rest of us, at the same time.
But who throws a Hail Mary pass when they’re ahead?
One aspect of his plans would have had Romney pay only 0.82% in taxes in 2010, by simply eliminating all taxes on capital gains, interest and dividends. And
Sound like a winner to you?
So Romney picks Ryan. What profiteth a man to (maybe) win Wisconsin but to lose Florida?
It profiteth him -19 electoral votes.