Vegetarian boxed lunch is a LIE!

What toxins do you mean?

What are they called?
Are they oil-soluble?
Where do they come from?
What do they do?

How does fasting purge them from the body?

Well, vegetarianism is just one of several things I’ve compromised for this relationship. This is not the place to go into all of that, though, and I’m not going to start a separate thread, so here’s my response:

Before I met my SO, I’d always maintained that I would be vegetarian–no meat or fish, and preferably free-range eggs and milk whenever I had a choice–since I first went vegetarian when I was 18. I figured I could live with a meat-eater so long as we could respect each other’s perspectives and ethical choices.

But then I met her, and once we were practically living together (about five years ago), I found it wasn’t so easy to practice the kind of lifestyle that I had been living as a single guy. For one thing, most of my meals had been some variety of pasta. I’m not the most imaginative cook, but pasta has always been a favorite staple of mine.

She doesn’t like pasta very much. Her diet’s always been fairly meat-centered, with pork being a particular favorite.

It didn’t make much sense for us to be fixing individual meals every evening, but, like I mentioned, I’m not a great chef and my offerings of mainly pasta or rice-based dishes weren’t all that satisfactory. So I compromised by eating poultry and fish that she prepares, as she is a much better cook than I am (I try to help out in other ways, fixing rice, setting up/clearing off the table and doing the dishes, etc.–but, really, she does more cooking than I do, so it’s more than just a case of her fixing “a dinner for us”).

I did stand firm on not eating pork or beef, and she’s respected this choice. She sometimes eats pork, and I don’t bother her about that. I just say that I don’t eat mammal.

Clearly, I had to sacrifice more than she did for this particular aspect of our relationship. You’re right that one should not feel it necessary to compromise their ethical principles for a relationship. But for this relationship, I made the decision that she was worth making the sacrifice for, and that’s something that I, and I alone, have to live with.

Kabbes-the ones mentioned in some links people gave-enemas, fasting, etc.

Maybe I should show my dad that recipe, it looks like something he’d like.

TM opens can of worms

Got a cite?

Maybe that applies to farmed salmon or canned fish from overseas. Or fish from the East river.

You wouldn’t catch me eating that stuff anyhow.

I eat wild Alaska salmon.

That IT!! ::waves fist:: :mad:

I’m starting a thread regarding this crap about cutting fish outta my diet is supposed to help “de-tox” my body.

Pure nu-age bullshit

My People have been eating Alaska fish for thousands of years.

If you wanna eat like a gerbil and stick a tube up your ass fine, thats your thing.

Don’t mislead and bamboozle others into your deranged “de-tox” rituals.

CNN good enough?

How about the BBC?

Those were just the top two hits on Google when I typed in “fish mercury”. Granted I would expect some fishing locations to be more contaminated than others, but also it’s not like one ocean is entirely contained from another on this planet.

FTR I first gleaned the information from a friend’s doctor – said friend has the World’s Most Screwed Up Digestive Tract (long story) and has to eat massive amounts of protein since most of it passes through him undigested… his doc told him to go sparingly on the fish to meet this requirement due to mercury.

Anyway, why the temper tantrum? There’s no conspiracy to make you detox or anything. Don’t want to, don’t do it.

Oh, forgot to say…

Sure peole have been eating fish for thousands of years. But we’ve only recently started dumping waste mercury into the oceans, too. Quite a few things were a lot more clean back then.

My assessment of you as being an idiot stems from your constant assertion that mainstream folk think that vegetarian = no animal products at all.

from CNN:

Underlined mine.

Thats akin to saying dont eat Florida oranges because the environment in Mexico City is bad.

Don’t implicate all fish in your hysteria. Alaska fish is still pristine.

Detox shmetox, that smells…fishy.

My sister runs a charter fishing business here in Alaska. So when you make statements such as this:

  • “Fish is known to contain trace levels of mercury due to water contamination.”*

Of course I’m gonna call bullshit, and point out that you wrongly implicate all fish in your vegetarian/vegan/nuage propaganda.

Unfortunately, I don’t know where I left the transcript. But this very subject was debated on Sealab:2021

“Did you know that a single fish contains as much mercury as an oral thermometer? (GULP)Mmmmmmm. Mercury. Most flavorful of all the transitional metals.”

Not quite. As far as I know, pesticides on oranges don’t flow through the ambient medium (air – unless you’re suggesting that the orange peels themselves “flow” :stuck_out_tongue: ). On the other hand, contaminents in water DO flow, right along with the water.

No doubt Alaska waters are cleaner than a number of other places in the world – I never said otherwise. Although I think “pristine” may be a bit of a stretch, especially since the Alaskan coastline has seen at least one or two oil spills that I can recall offhand (the Valdeez was one… or however you spell that). But again, we were talking about fish in general (at least kabbes and I were), not Alaskan fish in particular.

And there’s still no conspiracy to force you or anyone to detox. :smiley:

Have you ever been here?

Alaska has more coastline than the entire contiguous United states. That spill no doubt had a devastating effect on the surrounding area. But it is so removed from Southeast AK and had zero effect on its wildlife (SE AK)that it may as well have been on the east coast.

Detox quackery aside.

Lets rewind,shall we?

When I asked: How would cutting out fresh wild Alaska King salmon help in this?

Then you answered: Fish is known to contain trace levels of mercury due to water contamination.

I couldn’t let that stand, misinformation and rampant hysteria regarding the safety of the last frontiers fish just doesn’t sit well with me. Especially on a board that is dedicated to fighting ignorance.

If you ever visit my state email me. I’ll show you a salmon river in a back yard so immense and remote, I guarantee the last thing you would be thinking is “this fish is polluted”

I’m done here.

So by your logic, everyone doing a detox should investigate each individual piece of food for toxins, rather than just doing the far simpler removing of certain things by group? :rolleyes:

(Me, now I say it’s great that Alaska’s fish are so healthy. Let’s not kill 'em and let them stay healthy!)