There was a poster around here maybe 10 years ago who claimed he could sing note-for-note as well as Chris.
Anybody remember him?
Uh, no. It’s not that I find hip hop silly. It’s that I find someone who has made a career out of being a rock star trying to be a hip hop artist silly. It would be like Snoop Dogg becoming a heavy metal rocker. Silly.
You mean, like Ice T? It happens, it’s not like rock and hip hop are incompatible :dubious:.
You mean something like Iced T fronting a metal band. Yeah, that would be Stoopid.
Oh, wait…
Body Count kicks ass.
Or something like Anthrax working with Public Enemy. That would never happen…
Oh wait…
Slee
I never said the two music genres were incompatible. Please just read my words.
Then what do you find so silly in a rock singer doing hip hop?
Body Count sucks. And again, I’m not saying collaborations are silly. Ok? I’m not saying in any way that the genres of rock and hip hop aren’t compatible. I mean, there are whole genres onto themselves that combine the two music styles. What I am saying is silly would be Anthrax trying to morph into Public Enemy, not for the two groups to collaborate.
Seriously? I think my example of Snoop Dogg becoming a death metal rocker says it all. The rock singer collaborates with the hip hop artist, he doesn’t become the hip hop artist.
The trash punk band Beastie Boys turned into a hip hop group. Was that silly?
Yes, very seriously. And sometimes the rock singer does, and sometimes the hip hop artist turns into a rock singer. Happened many times, successfully.
Chris Cornell struggled with the rock box he was expected to stay in. A talent like his could sing anything, but changing genres is a huge risk.
Many times? Any examples besides Ice T?
I agree with this.
I think they followed a natural evolution as a group. They didn’t morph from trash punk to folk music.
Indeed… if you ever listened to Euphoria Morning, this is very clear. What genre could you classify that in?
The man painted his lyrics abstractly and they were very hard to put in any box once he was free to do whatever he wanted.
How could he have unintentionally hung himself? His wife might be in some stage of denial.
This one is touching in a new way, now, knowing that this little girl lost her dad. Chris Cornell and his daughter covering Bob Marley’s Redemption Song:
Yes, I am sure some of that is going on. By the same token all I have seen is that he was “found with a band around his neck” and the coroner’s ruling. If Ativan has the potential for freak-outs, or like some anti-depression meds in teens, lead to bursts of suicidal thoughts, there could be more to it.
Hmm. I had done an ETA to add a couple comments, but the Board glitched. Grr.
chargerrich, yeah, I dunno - singer-songwriter??
Chris Cornell, in some ways, is like Adele: when you can tap into a pure vocal force that few others have and which is rarely used in great songs, then fans have to have that and you get put in a small box. If Adele came out with a song with a light vocal, peoples’ heads would asplode ;). Robert Plant had to work hard to get folks to accept his dialed-down delivery. Audioslave was successful, but much closer to SG vs his other experiments.
Sometimes a punk rock band morphs into a mariachi band (The Bronx). Sometimes a folk rock group morphs into a heavy psychedelic rock band (Jefferson Airplane, Grateful Dead, do I really need to list dozens of acts from the '60s and '70s?). Sometimes punks become rappers and then become part-time smooth jazz artists (Beastie Boys) or soundtrack composers (Cliff Martinez). Sometimes actors become rockers (Keanu Reeves, Kevin Bacon). Sometimes rockers become actors (David Bowie, Debbie Harry, Teddy Geiger). Sometimes rappers become actors (Ice Cube, Tupac). Sometimes rappers become rockers and then become actors (Ice-T). Sometimes actors marry rappers and become rockers (Jada Pinkett-Smith).
And yeah, genre changing happens all the time. Ronnie James Dio wasn’t singing about Satan and swords and hellfire in 1958 when he was playing bass for Ronnie and the Redcaps. Jimi Hendrix wasn’t playing freaked out psychedelic rock when he was playing for Little Richard. Sly Stone was a freaking radio DJ before he created Sly & the Family Stone.
In entertainment, much of what you see and hear is “performance” not “creativity”. And performers want to perform, they want to be on stage, they want to be in front of people. If rock or rap or folk music or ballads or screechy arrhythmic noise is what gets people in the seats, that’s what people are going to perform.
Heck, I bet we could do a whole thread on people who’s careers encompassed what seemed to be a left turn straight into success.