But isn’t he also Mr Mudd–he used aliases all the time, IMS. I’d have to watch the one where he “rules” a planet to be sure.
Scotty never made my little heart go pitapat. To me, he is asexual, as is Chekov and Sulu. No doubt that says much more about me than about any of them…
I promised myself another episode tonight IF I get this chart audit done for this attorney. Incentive! (I hate working on my only day off).
Nope - different actors.
IIRC, the plans for the Enterprise shows a bowling alley, and didn’t Riley mention that the dance was going to be there - though I’m not positive about that one.
Different people. Cyrano Jones (the tribble guy) was played by actor and screenwriter Stanley Adams, who was most famously in Breakfast at Tiffany’s. He committed suicide in 1977. Harry Mudd, he of the android women and mail order brides was played by Roger Carmel, who would later be the voice of Smokey the Bear. Carmel died of congestive heart failure, probably exacerbated by drug use in 1986.
I’m sure. You are correct about both.
Just wanted to say thanks eleanorigby for the link to the shows. Just watched episode 1 (which I probably hadn’t seen in 35+ years) and loved it. So now I have to work through the entire series in episodic order. I wonder what unemplyment is paying these days? 
Chekov: Sir, we’re out of Photon Torpedoes.
Kirk: Quick, load the bowling balls! We’ll split the Klingons, strike the lead ship and spare the survivors.
You are best to watch in producion order. There are some interesting ideas that got dropped as the show moulded itself that could have made the series a little different.
You’ll note as the series goes on the corridors get less poulated and a little whiter.
The obvious changes are in set design and costumes over a few episodes (watch Spocks collar as it shrinks to be the same as other actors)
Some other little changes:
There is no Federation until halfway through season 1. Satrfleet was originally called UESA (United Earth Space Agency) and United Earth is referred to.
The Enterprise was originally refered to as The United Earth Ship
Enterprise.
Apparently originally Vulcan was defeated… McCoy makes an off the cuff remark about “perhaps thats why you were conquered.” in an argument with Spock.
Acyually there are no Vulcans but instead Vulcainians. Engineering keeps expanding as the series goes on.
Though later (in Star Trek II) the century is defined as the 23rd Century, early shows seem to have the dates in the 22nd century
Do you recall the episode?
Fascinating. Please elaborate.
When they interact with 20th-Century types (i.e. a newly-awakened Khan or that Air Force cop in that ep where they accidentally go back to the 1960s) Kirk tends to say “about 200 years” as representing the time difference.
Well, that’s more than I needed to know, but I’m glad for the info. The 2 characters are much of a type–Mudd is more larcenous than Jones, that’s all.
Where does one find the production schedule? I just watched them in “order”–it’s neat to see how the characters develop over time (especially the chemistry between the Big 3).
You deserve to be held in a transporter beam indefinitely for this. 
monkeymensch–glad to be of help! Enjoy! and then come back here and share your thoughts. I think I’ll watch the one where Mudd is in charge of a planet tonight.
The Security Officer said that Kirk was going to be locked up for 200 years, and Kirk mutters that that would just be about right. I wouldn’t put too much in that.
Of course TOS could have begun at the end of the 22md century.
I’m dubious. In “the Immunity Syndrome” Spock senses the destruction of a Vulcan ship, and comments that he felt a sense of surprise, since Vulcan had never been defeated. This never made sense to me, because even if they had won all wars at least some ships would have lost.
I also don’t see Roddenberry’s vision of the future, even before the Federation, include conquest.
I can forgive your confusion. The author of “The Trouble With Tribbles”, David Gerrold, wrote that he originally had Harry Mudd in mind as the purveyor of the tribbles. When the producers decided that they didn’t want another Harry Mudd episode, he simply changed the name to Cyrano Jones.
I don’t think the episode works with Mudd in it anyway. I’m can’t imagine Uhura buying so much as a hairpin from him. Had she run into him in the bar, she’d probably summon the nearest security officer and order them to put him in the brig on her own authority; and when she reported this to Kirk, his only criticism would be that she hadn’t also ordered the redshirts to kick his ass first.
through vague memory of the quote being about Alcohol and google fu
** Conscience of the King**
McCoy: Mr. Spock, the man on top often walks a lonely street. The chain of command is often a noose.
Spock: Spare me your philosophical metaphors Doctor. The Captain is acting strangely, I’m asking if you’ve noticed.
McCoy: Negative. Do you know, this is the first time this week that I’ve had time for a drop of the true? Would you care for a drink Mr. Spock?
Spock: My fathers race was spared the dubious effects of alcohol.
McCoy: Oh. Now I know why they were conquered.
This may take a little longer (I believe we have James R Kirk Tombstone with a date of 21 something… oddly the tombstone pictures on Google show star dates) I’ll have to look again through my dvds to find examples.
Now there’s a show!
It is my opinion (FWIW) that the Vulcans and Earthlings decided early on to just go along to get along. I highly doubt the Vulcans could have been taunted or baited into some kind of violent confrontation and I also doubt that humans, arriving at a strange planet early in the beginning starfleet’s era, would be so willing to conquer and rule–it would be almost impossible to do so. Sure, I’d like to think that we had evolved into just plain curious folk who want everyone to be friends, but I’m too old for that kind of nonsense. But I do think it’s inherently illogical and impractical to attempt to vanquish etc, so I doubt it happened that way.
I don’t know how many times I watched that episode, and the comment slipped right by me all those times! :eek: