Warlords of Draenor: WoW General Discussion thread 10/13/2014

Azgalor, almost exclusively. Azgalor, home of raging PvP douchebags. shrug. I’ve learned to have a thick skin when participating in PvP against my will.

As far as comments, I mostly ignore chat channels anyway. It’s like Twitter, but more inane.

Azgalor, Azholesgalore.

I’m on Medivh (PVE), Horde side. They’re pretty quiet… when you have General chat disabled. :smiley:

So are things quiet everywhere, or is it just my server? (Medivh, horde side, hi Geek Mecha!)

So I played for the first several months of the xpack, with my main as a holy/disc priest. Then my life went sideways for a while back in January after I lost my job the same month my room-mate decided he liked cocaine more than paying rent. Fast forward nine months and I’ve landed on my feet again. I’m no longer homeless, working, got a PC again, all that good stuff. So I decided to reactivate my account and get ready for legion. My plan is to grind out some gear from Tannan and mythic dungeons, do the draenor pathfinder achievement and get me some flying, make some gold, and hopefully kill heroic Archie and get me that moose.

So I spent a couple of hours on sunday afternoon tweaking addons and rebuilding my UI in my garrison, and I didn’t see a single comment in trade or general chat over the course of two hours. I heard that a lot of people left the game, but I wasn’t quite expecting this much of a ghost town. Is it like this elsewhere?

Also, after a nine month gap, all my toons are guildless. In the past, I’ve always been in a guild with RL friends, but sadly I don’t know anyone in RL who plays right now. Anyone have any advice on finding a good guild right now?

Hi Mithrander! Glad to hear things are better for you now.

Chat is pretty quiet and you don’t often hear people talk. I play late, like 9-3am PST, so it’s usually deserted anyway. However, there are times where I see a ton of people around.

The most recent time was to get Terky the Murloc pet. Over this weekend, it was announced that this pet was now available outside Asia. The pet is obtainable by clicking an egg that spawns in a tiny underwater cave south of Borean Tundra. I thought it’d be quick, 2 minutes in and out. It was 2am. NOPE. There were at least 100 Horde and Alliance players in there, having a grand old time, popping random pets and toys atop the spawn area and having dance-offs. It took 45 minutes to get it and leave.

Tanaan Jungle can be crowded on daytime weekends. But few people talk. I take that as a sign that everyone’s chatting in guild chat, but that’s speculation.

I am in a guild now, but literally no one else but me is ever on. I got in through a friend, but he quit playing, so I don’t know anyone in the guild at all. I sort of prefer this, as I don’t interact with others outside BGs and only wanted the guild achievements. I’m pretty bombarded by guild spam when I log in with my lvl 90 DK alt, though, so you might have luck with guilds coming to you.

I hope you find a good, new guild soon. There’s nothing like playing with good friends. It adds such a great dimension to MMORPGs.

My main Allis are on Alleria. There are a few collecting dust on Garona and a DK I take out sometimes on Cairne. And you’re right-the Allis on Cairne are a bunch of tools and the amount of stupid right after Cairne got merged with Perenolde was mind-boggling. Barrens Chat was less stupid.

My main Hordies now are on Lightbringer, but with the last of my IRL friends still playing declared he was bored with the game and didn’t want to play anymore, they’ll probably start collecting dust too. All my Cairne toons are still in BDL, but I only play 2 (Bladygaga and Jarryn) with any regularity.

Hallow’s End 2015-the Reins finally dropped on run #8.

Huge grats! “Our long national nightmare is now over.” :slight_smile:

On a slightly related note (hard-to-get loot), any of you pet collectors who haven’t been following forums or sites like WoWHead: once upon a time, there was an excruciatingly-limited release baby murlock pet named Terky. How limited? A Taiwanese soft drink promotion. So, almost certainly, no SDMB WoW player has one.

It’s out there now in WoW for the taking. In Northrend, in a cave (underwater entrance) at the Riplash Ruins in Borean Tundra.

How-to-get-it video from HeelvsBabyface. Tech Times article about it.

Totally free for the taking (except for maybe PvP complications if your realm is like that). And totally worth it, because BABY MURLOCK. And also interesting as a combat pet… a Humanoid type with Critter, Aquatic, or Humanoid attack moves.

Congrats! And thanks for getting me in BDL. Roxxar is my first warrior and my first high level hordie. I’m solo leveling as Fury, but have Protection as my alt spec, with an eye towards learning to tank as a warrior.

I successfully solo’d The Pit daily group quest on Saturday with my monk, which means I’ve completed all the daily Draenor quests now with that toon.

Turns out there are a couple of pockets of non-elite orc workers along the north edge of the pit with < 100K hit points each. One at ~48,23 with about 10 workers, and another, larger group located almost directly beneath them two tiers down. There are about 30 workers there, and by the time you’ve worked your way to the end of the row, the ones at the beginning have respawned.

You have to jump down to that lower level, and it’s about a 150,000 point drop, damage-wise, but just 15-20 minutes of grinding and the quest was done.

I only died once, just trying to get to the first spot – there’s a Rare Elite troll lurking behind a pole just inside the entrance and he aggro’d me. Defender Ilona went down in just a few seconds, and my monk shortly after, but I was able to corpse run and respawn far enough away that he didn’t re-aggro me when I resurrected.

Don’t know if I’ll ever get the rest of the achievements necessary to let me fly in Draenor though…

Has anyone else taken a look at the Legion class previews?

Links:
Overview Rogue Priest Paladin Shaman Monk Mage Warrior Druid Death Knight Warlock Hunter
As a Combat Rogue, I’m looking forward to the Outlaw changes. With my current playstyle, I lose nothing but gain some neat-sounding abilities. And I get to fire a gun again! Probably not an equippable weapon, but still.

Plus, this spec description says we’re unscrupulous scoundrels who fight dirty. How cool is that? :smiley:

It kind of depends on the backstory you tell yourself about your character. My son’s combat rogue was a soldier, not an outlaw – a spec-ops type. Snake eater. Often seconded to SI-7. That kind of stuff. That doesn’t fit in well with “yaar, now you’re a land-pirate, matey!”.

(Of course, he quit playing in disgust and frustration when Blizz changed everything with Cataclysm, so he won’t care. But if he did, I know him well enough to say that he’d react that way.)

For hunters, I’m pleased that Marksman (my main) is still Marksman, except even more so. But apparently losing hunter pets entirely? That seems overkill, and makes me question survivability in questing and solo play. (Fer instance, MM hunter + Spirit bond pet is a dang good way to solo old content, in the cases where the old mechanics still do appreciable damage.)

I never really thought about it, but I suppose I see myself as a general minion of the Horde. I started as Alliance, though, and I played a Combat Rogue Nelf to 70. I, too, would have a hard time adopting the Outlaw mindset if I was still Alliance. Perhaps the Class Halls will help Alliance players adjust to the change.

I hadn’t heard about MM Hunters. I played MM briefly in Cata and liked it. Maybe you’ll gain some defensive trait or MM gear will have more armor? I have a little sympathy for MM hunters who want to show off their extensive pet collections, though I’d view this as a kick in the butt to switch to BM.

Hello Everyone

Need some help if anyone has a minute?

Where’s the best place to farm for oil for my ships and how to I get MORE ships (currently 6/6) or do I need more?

Also, if my friends are all still here (too numerous to mention all of you, but I love you anyway), I think I’ve come to my “Peter Principle” of playing WoW. I simply can no longer grasp all the instructions anymore and even the simplest of them (such as what do to do for a parched plant) fail me many times.

As y’all know I have that ol’ debbil Dee-men-shia, and I think this is where I’ll stop with the Xpaks.

Also, as Rik already knows, my beloved Dondra has suffered a stroke due to her A-Fib with RVR and I need to be more cognizant of her needs, so all but my 15.00 a month for the game is sacrificed.

Write me sometimes, and if you answer here, I’ll get the e-mail.

Thanks for the help as always!

Quasimodem

Best wishes to you and Dondra, Quasimodem.

Oil is a natural choke resource in the garrison shipyard minigame. The “official” way to get oil is complete the daily quests in Tanaan jungle. The main daily quest (at the table in your Tanaan camp’s command post) gives 600 oil on completion. In theory, that’s enough for any given day’s missions. When you get to Revered with your Tanaan jungle faction, you can buy an Oil Rig blueprint which adds a daily “gather oil” mission to the naval mission map; pretty much a free 400 oil a day, assuming the area it’s in isn’t under blockade. (Which does happen, and is a frustrating delay if your oil reserves are getting low. Just ask me how I know. :mad:)

Plus some of the non-naval garrison missions (the ones your garrison followers go on) can generate oil, as well. If you have a full complement of ilvl 675 followers, you can count on 100-300 oil per day that way.

Finally, killing any of the uber-big group mobs that spawn in Tanaan (like Deathtalon or Doomroller) will drop 100 oil guaranteed the first time you kill them each day.

You have to complete the quest “Upgrading the Fleet”, which requires you to successfully conclude 15 ship missions of any type and then pay 1,000 gold and 1,000 garrison resources to upgrade to a Level 2 shipyard, which will accommodate 8 ships instead of 6. You should have bought theplans for Battleships from your Tanaan faction quartermaster, as well; it’s not necessary, but a lot of those missions are unwinnable without a battleship.

When you upgrade the naval yard to level 2, you automatically get the plans for building submarines, so you (theoretically) want to use the two new slots for submarines. Because you’ll start seeing missions that are unwinnable without a submarine.

Naval missions are very much paper-rock-scissors. So you’re more or less obligated to form your fleet to match all possible mission threats, unless you’re willing to not take a lot of the missions or risk losing ships sending them out on missions they’re not equipped for.

WoW has gotten terribly complicated, and incorporated a lot of stuff radically different from good ol’ fashion questing-and-dungeon-crawling. As much as I like these things, sometimes it just doesn’t feel like I’m playing WoW any more. So I certainly can’t argue with you.

Well, life is bad that way, but priorities are priorities. I’m glad you have a good sense of proportion in this; I’ve known people who were willing to let real life slip away while completely mastering this game.

Hi Bill! I wish I could offer advice on this, but, as you know, I’m not playing much these days, and I’ve pretty much given up on the shipyard stuff. I’m also unlikely to purchase the next expansion, simply because I don’t see my computer being able to handle it, and I can’t afford a new computer.

And yes, I remember reading about Dondra on Facebook. My prayers go out to her, and to you. I sincerely hope that Georgia has systems in place to help you out.

On a non-WoW note, thank you for introducing me to your nephew back in Germany! A few days ago I got a wild hair up my ass, and decided to see if I could reconnect with some of the foreign exchange students I befriended during my final year of high school. Four of them, in particular: a Japanese girl, a guy from Argentina, a guy from Belgium, and a German girl.

I had immediate success with the Japanese woman. I searched her name, as she gave it to me in 1984, on Facebook. And, wow, there she was! I’m guessing that she never married in the intervening 31 years (that idea is backed up by the fact that all of the photos on her Facebook account are of her and her dogs). She messaged me back, “What a sweet surprise!” And I was gobsmacked that she actually remembered me, after all these years.

I think I have also found the Argentinian and the Belgian, but neither of them have yet replied to my messages (Hi, were you a foreign exchange student in 1983-84 in [my city]?)

But have had no luck with the German girl, via Facebook and Google. I suspect that she got married, and so her last name, as I knew it, is next to useless for searching. But … she did give me her home mailing address, in Kassel. So I appealed to your nephew. He’s in a better position than I am to maybe dig up where she went to high school in Kassel, and if I could find her school, that would be a place to start.

He’s agreed to do what he can to help me out :slight_smile:

After all this time, I can’t believe I just noticed this. As you go down the path to the Darkmoon Faire, hover your mouse over the red arrows pointing the way. Each one gives you a tooltip with a line of the following poem:

Ahead of You, Down the Path
A Majestic, Magical Faire!
Ignore the Darkened, Eerie Woods
Ignore the Eyes That Blink and Stare
Fun & Games & Wondrous Sights!
Music & Fireworks to Light Up the Night!
Do Not Stop! You’re Nearly There!
Behold, My Friend: THE DARKMOON FAIRE!

Yeah, it’s definitely a part of the charm of the place.

The Darkmoon Faire seems to have some interesting potential for weird lore, but I don’t think Blizz’s done much with it. All the lighthearted sinisterness of the place and organization seems to give off the vibe of something ominous in the background, but maybe they’ll never run with it and just leave it an unexplained mystery.

I certainly appreciate the ability to bump trade skills once a month. I have alts with severe skill catchup issues (due to materials being so hard to come by), and 5 basically free points is very helpful.

Yeah, when I can I try to run all of my many alts through there. I ran my highest-level monk (level 33) through the profession quests yesterday. She’s in full heirlooms, had her +50%XP monk bonus, plus the XP bonus from the merry-go-round … she got a whopping 15-16% of a level’s worth of XP from each quest turn-in.

It’s kind of amazing, how much you can boost a lowbie alt with that one weird little trick.

I’ve taken a lvl 92 alt, tricked out in full heirlooms, plus the 10% bonus XP elixir from the garrison vendor, plus the +30% (for 15 minutes) bind-on-account elixir you can get from the occasional garrison rare mission, plus the carousel boost, and doing the tradeskill weeklies plus the two pet trainer battles… and walked away dinging lvl 93 and getting 3/4 of the way to 94.

The only more broken way to ding a WoD alt is the “do all the bonus objectives in every zone except for one kill, drink the +30% elixir, do the last kill for each objective (scoring xp for the “quest turn in”)”. I actually took a lvl 92 ret paladin to lvl 99 (and only 150k away from 100) in an hour, with almost all of the xp coming in in the 15-minute duration of the elixir. “Final kill, ding, final kill, final kill, ding…”

The practical issue with that kind of power leveling is that you end up with a lvl 100 toon with an underdeveloped garrison and too few resources (garrison supplies or gold) to do much. Your higher-level toons will definitely have to bankroll it, or your lvl 100 is stuck in heirlooms with no garrison followers and no way to expand. I’m not really skilled enough to get an undergeared toon through Silver proving grounds, so no heroics to gear up either. :frowning:

Thanks to heirlooms + DMF bonus, my dwarf hunter, Boragnir, entered Hyjal at level 80 and dinged 86 before he finished the zone.

And is it just me, or is there a major power upgrade when dinging 86? During the last few Hyjal quests, Boragnir was still taking 2-3 shots to kill the mobs. Immediately upon dinging 86, he started one-shotting everything in sight. And during the final confrontation with Ragnaros, he never had to assist Malfurion or Hamuul. He took Ragnaros down in 5-6 shots, before he could get off any of his special attacks or summon minions.

I got another surprise yesterday. Since I’m paying for my sub with gold, I’ve been running all of my high-level toons through all the old daily quests I can to earn gold. That includes all of the Tol Barad dailies. While running my lvl 96 destro lock through there, I decided to enter the raid there for the first time ever. She took down the bosses on the left and right. They took some effort, but Hodela was never in any real danger. Then the last boss (the one straight ahead) completely ROFLstomped her :mad: