Warning! VCO3 Will Tamper With Your Food!

[Jodi]

A discussion gets underway after Sampiro’s friend, a waiter, drafts a screed against crappy customers and Sampiro solicits comments on it. The link is here. Several people comment that the anti-customer rant seems overstated and partly indefensible. At the bottom of page 1, a poster states that a “very bad customer” might have her ring thrown away, his keys stolen, or (strongly implied) their food spat in. I, among others, took strong issue with that POV.

VCO3 then responded to me here. Since he has seen seen fit to drop the F-bomb, I’ve moved my response to the Pit as the more apppropriate forum.

@VCO3

The only reason people like this call it “cowardice” is that you have no other recourse against this, and it scares the shit out of you. You want to be able to treat waitstaff like subhuman garbage but you also want to live in a happy world where they will never do anything to get back at you for it.

Wait a sec. You’re the one spitting in my food and stealing my stuff instead of dealing with me directly, and I’m the one who’s scared? And where does the “treat waitstaff like subhuman garbage” come from? The drugs you’ve been taking? Don’t tell me what “I want to do,” m’kay? I realize you have cognitive ability of a chimp and probably couldn’t understand my point if I conveyed it using simple hand gestures, but the fact that you can’t understand my point doesn’t give you the right to misrepresent it.

Fuck you.

Not even on your birthday. I only fuck people I respect, so get back to me when you’ve grown a pair.

We will.

You mean YOU will. As I’ve already said, I choose not to use you and your behavior as the yardstick for humanity. I realize SOME people behave like this, but not ALL people and IME not MOST people.

You will be fucked over in ways that you’ll never know.

Yeah, I get that. That’s the part that’s cowardly, see? The fact that you would resort to fucking me over in ways I’ll never know. It’s cowardice, pure and simple. People with spines don’t do it.

And that’s what makes it great. It’s not cowardice, it’s fucking SMART. Because we get to have our cake and eat it too - we get our revenge, and you never know. It’s brilliant. We get to keep our jobs. We get to keep your property (I’d have pawned that ring instead of tossing it in the dumpster, but to each his own). And we get to laugh and laugh and laugh.

Yeah, you’ve got a job and a piece of property. What you don’t have is any balls or any integrity, and no amount of laughter will buy them for you. So enjoy your cake, chump.

And ANOTHER thing: This:

@VCO3

I knew that this post was doomed, because I’ve never seen such naked, unmasked hostility toward those in service professions as I have here on the SDMB. There’s a true hatred and resentment of people in service positions on this board, which is funny considering how liberal it skews. It’s like a weird reversal of the prosperity Gospel concept - “those filthy people must DESERVE to be waiters, so we’re going to treat them like human garbage.” Posters who can’t handle hearing these complaints are the same types of people who believed in happiness in slavery and didn’t understand when they slaves didn’t “know their place.”

. . . Is the stupidest response an ill-trained chimp like yourself ever farted out his ass. It bears almost no resemblance to anything anyone said in that thread, and the analogy of “disliking bad service = liking slavery” is so beyond known galaxy of the idiotic it’s like a newly-found planet. You are boldly going where no knuckle-dragging finger-sniffing monkey-with-a-typewriter has ever gone before, but you might want to consider whether the Idiocy Frontier actually needs that much expanding.

Nice job typing with your head up your ass, though.

[kayT]

I realize you have cognitive ability of a chimp and probably couldn’t understand my point if I conveyed it using simple hand gestures, but the fact that you can’t understand my point doesn’t give you the right to misrepresent it.

I enjoyed your whole rant, but esp. that sentence. Tho it’s a bit hard on chimps.

[athelas]

Not terribly new: VCO3’s been at it before. A representative sample:

@some moron

Offense: Though I stood with my hand outstretched, you put your money on the counter.

Revenge - Oh, you ordered that latte decaf? I slipped four shorts of espresso in there instead. Oopsie! Good luck falling asleep sometime this year, jackass!

He also produces such gems as Why hasn’t someone tried to assassinate G.W. Bush yet?. Frankly, this stuff is par for course.

[Crotalus]

That was a marvelous rant directed at an extremely deserving target. Kudos.

[pizzabrat]

He been said that.

[TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW]

None of this changes the fact that it’s so wonderful to see someone like you have their faith in the goodwill of servers shaken down to its very core. Your food will be fucked with, your experience ruined, and you’ll never know it. That’s the best part about it!

People want to believe that they can get away with treating servers like garbage without consequences. They want to believe that the type of guy that’ll do something to your food is limited to one bad apple out of every thousand.

It’s not - I’ve worked in almost every level of food service from fast food to banquet hall type places to a country club, to your average chain restaurant and coffee shop. The amount of food-fuckery that goes on is huge. You don’t even want to know the things that I’ve seen others do on a near-daily basis, and they weren’t nearly as sociopathic as I am.

And here’s a secret - the women in service are twice as evil as any guy I’ve ever known. I’ve met Madame Dufarge herself in a very popular chain restaurant.

I don’t work in service anymore. I realized it was making me a completely insane person and filling me with rage, so I moved on for the betterment of myself and of all humanity.
I do want to apologize for saying “fuck you” in that thread; I was thinking it was in the Pit. My mistake!

[TLDRIDKJKLOLFTW]

@athelas

He also produces such gems as Why hasn’t someone tried to assassinate G.W. Bush yet?. Frankly, this stuff is par for course.

I think two or three people understood that post, and everyone else went monkey-crazy over it. It was a LEGITIMATE question that in NO WAY endorsed any sort of action. Almost every other president has one or multiple assasination attempts on record, and GW Bush has none, even though he’s easily the most despised president in generations. Why does anyone think that’s a crazy question to ask!?

[Crotalus]

So what are you doing now, so we know what to avoid if we’re in Chicago?

[hawksgirl]

@VCO3

your experience ruined, and you’ll never know it.

This doesn’t make sense to me. If I don’t know it, how has my experience been ruined?

[D_Odds]

@Jodi

You mean YOU will. As I’ve already said, I choose not to use you and your behavior as the yardstick for humanity. I realize SOME people behave like this, but not ALL people and IME not MOST people.

There’s your mistake. VCO3 and humanity do not intersect.

[Maeglin]

@VCO3

None of this changes the fact that it’s so wonderful to see someone like you have their faith in the goodwill of servers shaken down to its very core. Your food will be fucked with, your experience ruined, and you’ll never know it. That’s the best part about it!

How badly can my experience be ruined if I never know it?

[Maeglin]

@hawksgirl

This doesn’t make sense to me. If I don’t know it, how has my experience been ruined?

I curse your speed.

[Crotalus]

@VCO3

I<snip> Almost every other president has one or multiple assasination attempts on record,<snip>

One of the reasons some of us think you’re crazy is statements like this. I know this is the pit, but cite?

[Anaamika]

I’m going to try to reason with you.

@VCO3

None of this changes the fact that it’s so wonderful to see someone like you have their faith in the goodwill of servers shaken down to its very core. Your food will be fucked with, your experience ruined, and you’ll never know it. That’s the best part about it!

People want to believe that they can get away with treating servers like garbage without consequences. They want to believe that the type of guy that’ll do something to your food is limited to one bad apple out of every thousand.

But I haven’t ever been rude to a waiter. Only once have I ever complained to a manager about a waiter, and she really deserved it.

Do people like me get this kind of treatment from the waiters, too? The way you make it sound, everyone treats waiters like garbage. I don’t believe asking for the onions to be removed or expecting people to come back to pick up my credit card fast is “treating them like garbage”.

You don’t seem to draw the line anywhere and just go off into a hysterical rant. Really, I expect to see you crying, you get so excited!

[Kamino_Neko]

@VCO3

It’s not - I’ve worked in almost every level of food service from fast food to banquet hall type places to a country club, to your average chain restaurant and coffee shop. The amount of food-fuckery that goes on is huge.

Only when you’re working, fuckmunch.

Most food service people aren’t raging sociopaths - and those that are aren’t idiots about it, they actually do something that lets them get real satisfaction against the customer - so food goes unadulterated 99.999% of the time.

[wring]

@VCO3

I don’t work in service anymore. I realized it was making me a completely insane person and filling me with rage, so I moved on for the betterment of myself and of all humanity.

so you’re saying this is the ‘new improved’ version of yourself?
maybe it’s time to try again.

[cowgirl]

@VCO3

People want to believe that they can get away with treating servers like garbage without consequences. They want to believe that the type of guy that’ll do something to your food is limited to one bad apple out of every thousand.

psst - **VCO3 **- that may be true in general, but it is clearly not true of the people in that thread. The only thing anyone posted in that thread which might remotely support your point is the person who claimed they didn’t tip. Everyone else in the thread was quite reasonable in their attitude towards their servers, and your attack (which was on the people in that thread, and not on people NOT in that thread, who may actually like treating servers like garbage - I have no doubt there are some like that) was totally inappropriate for that situation.

Also, re: fucking with the food - I think there’s a big difference between “I’m going to spit in your food because I don’t like you and I can” and “I don’t understand why people are so nasty to other people who could easily spit in their food undetected.”

I heartily agree with the second statement but cannot relate in any form to the first. As a server I never tampered with anyone’s drinks, nor did I ever think “you better be nice to me because I could spit in your drink if I wanted to.” But I certainly did think “wow, if I was an asshole I would spit in your drink, and I don’t know why you don’t seem to realize that.”

[DudleyGarrett]

I can’t get that French Toast scene out of my head from Road Trip. Thanks.

[Missy2U]

Yeah, wring, that’s just what I was thinking.

This is an IMPROVEMENT???

[badbadrubberpiggy]

I worked in food service for several years & never, ever messed with someone’s food. And I could have done it very easily if I wanted to. Few people I knew ever did it, either. I’d say none, though it’s been a few years and I may have forgotten. I didn’t work in a fancy place, either.

I was also rarely treated like garbage.