And that’s why everyone loves OK Go videos. If it was just a bunch of CGI, it would have been just another video.
Monsters University required 2,000 computers and 100 million CPU hours for a running time of 1:44. That’s 960,000 CPU hours per minute.
Even if this video only needed 1% of that, that’s still 32,000 CPU hours or 1,333 days on one computer. Where did they go to get the multiple computers needed to bring this down to a reasonable time frame?
Do you really think this choreography is so complicated and difficult that they couldn’t get this done in 8 takes, after 13 flights to experiment and rehearse? This isn’t like the Rube Goldberg video where one little error stops the action completely and ruins the take.
Monsters inc was a feature film with entirely CG characters, nothing like this. I’m only saying they probably did the balls, disco balls and paper in CG, and that would only take maybe a render farm of 10 quad core i7s. Or they could just hire time on a cloud based render farm if the needed a bit more. Theres loads of them eg:
http://www.renderrocket.com/
And OK Go have made a point of not using common practise in the past. Get it now?
You’re coming at this from the wrong angle. You see a problem and you think, how could I do that in the most efficient way possible using the tools I’m familiar with? Answer, CGI and various other effects. That’s all well and good but it is not the problem the OK Go shoot was trying to solve. They come at it saying “what’s a cool video we can make all in one take like previous ones we’ve done?” They’ve basically ruled out your go-to solution right from the start. In short, unless absolutely necessary to bridge the gap between the possible and the impossible (note, “impossible”, not “difficult”), they aren’t interested in your approach to these problems.
Personally I think your experience is entirely irrelevant. You have experience with typical film shoots and these guys don’t do typical film shoots.
Finally if it turned out that they did use the amount of effects you are suggesting, they will have spoiled all of their future videos because then they will always be assumed to be cheating and their videos will be just like all the other music videos. And given that their music is nothing special, they will be throwing away a significant income source.
Or they could just do what they said they did. Why go to all that effort to just CGI some balls into it?
I have experience with producers and the money involved on time critical shoots. As their budgets increase the pressure on them to cheat from producers watching the bottom line gets more and more. Artistic integrity goes out the window once other people get control of the budget. OK GO did not fund this themselves, therefore, they did not control the budget.
Your first response to me was an attempt to shame me by invoking the ‘Dedicated to Fighting Ignorance’ creed. Yet when you’ve been shown to be wrong time and time again you double down. In fact you side step the truth and try to cover it over with “weaker claims”. If you are changing your OPs premise it wouldn’t hurt to admit you were wrong in the first place.
RP is right, your expertise is irrelevant here given that this took place on a real plane with real people. There is more than one way to skin a cat. Just apply a little Occam’s razor.
So cough up the proof that this is not what they say.
One of the things they’ve managed is getting major sponsors and retaining full control.
And that’s as impressive as their videos.
Nope, since I’ve been on set many times supervising visual effects on set, not just sitting behind a computer working on it. I can’t change the title of the original post so what do you want me to do? Yes I should have written “Did OK GO shoot this entirely as they claim?”. Fair enough, and I maintain they are not being 100 percent honest in how they claim to have done it.
You’ve been asked for proof several times in this thread. So prove it - other than ‘my post is my cite’.
All of your suspicions have been met with credible cites. You’ve provided nothing in the way anything substantial much less proof.
Even in you’re re-imagined OP above you are still wrong. There is plenty of proof provided in this thread that they shot it exactly the way they claim they did.
There is no proof one way or the other in this thread, by which I mean proof that the end result is really the result of one series of 8 weightless sessions in a row as they claim. OK GO fans can believe whatever they want, that doesn’t change the extremely mercenary and money sensitive reality of the industry.
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I maintain they are not being 100 percent honest in how they claim to have done it.
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I’ll throw your words right back at you: this sight is dedicated fighting ignorance and not just taking someone’s word for it. You “maintaining” it doesn’t cut it.
Can you give us any examples of video shoots, from groups with similar reputations, that were cheated and “made up”? From your personal experience, that is.
I’m not asking you to believe me, I’m saying its unknowable without more evidence one way or the other.
How about some videos that demonstrate the high degree of realism required?
…you do realize we are in General Questions right? The place for factual assertions. If you can’t prove that “they are not being 100 percent honest” then don’t make that assertion.
Your claimed expertise is also unknowable without evidence yet no one in here is saying you are a fraud, we are happy to take your word for it.
yep. We’re happy to make fun of it, but no-one here has said coremelt has not, in fact, seen many 'shops in his time.
For anyone interested, they’ve been posting a bunch of behind the scenes stuff on their Facebook page and will continue to do so (the last one was posted Friday evening, I believe.) Maybe they’ll start talking about the editing process and morphing or whatnot. I love how the thread went from doubting there was even an actual plane involved (where are the flight plans!) to basically, oh, some balls were CGI’ed in. I don’t think they are, but even if a couple balls were, who cares? All the cool stuff really happened and was choreographed on a plane, and the whole point of the genesis of this thread was basically doubting that the footage was real, that it was cheaper to green screen and completely CGI, and not that a couple of balls were CGI’ed in.