Exactly. If you use those words to describe at-worst-average-looking women like Yoko, what the hell do you use to describe women who are actually ugly?
Stranger,
I’ll let Michelle know when I see her and when you run into Sung Hi Lee, tell her I’m interested! Here’s a photo just in case you forgot what she looks like.
http://www.askmen.com/women/galleries/model/sung-hi-lee/picture-2.html
Saying “But I always thought she couldn’t sing” is like saying “Well, I always though the Pacific Ocean had a reasonably large amount of water in it” or “But I always thought John Wayne Gacy would be a less than desirable babysitter.”
Of course Yoko Ono couldn’t sing, and of course she wasn’t good looking, and her art is terrible. She was a hipster scene chick of limited-to-zero talent who happened to fall in love with someone really famous and has ridden that like a jockey stapled to Secretariat.
My favourite video of all time is the early one for “Imagine.” John Lennon sits at the piano and plays and sings, and Yoko Ono… sits there, looking stoned. Why was she there? Who knows? Well, mainly it was Lennon’s own monstrous ego, but can you for an instant imagine, say, Bono just having his wife sit in the middle of the video for “One”?
I found Yoko’s singing truly painful and I am a terrible singer. I like good bagpipe music. Think Chieftains.
I must strongly disagree with this, I have always found her very hot. Cute face and great body.
Jim
Actually she does just sort of sit there in the U2 video for Sweetest Thing. Well, I suppose she rides in a car, but same difference.
If I recall it right, she came from the worst demographic of all, the very affluent slumming it for street cred, which has now bred the execrable Paris Hilton and the Strokes.
Yoko Ono looks great here:
http://www.tshirtwatch.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/06/jennifer-love-hewitt-yoko.jpg
And not bad here:
I think Yoko was quite attractive in all of these pictures, much more so than the picture of Song Hi Lee… because she didn’t have all of that frickin’ fake shiny makeup on! She looked real, like someone you could actually live with and come home to.
But then I like unconventional Asian women.
Now, as to what she was actually like, and her accomplishments and artistic works, I can’t say.
Never had a problem with her looks. And, as others have said, who the fuck cares.
I do find something about her to be unlikable, offputting; it has to do with positioning herself as Cool Trendy. None of her stuff has hit me as genuinely creative, but she’s perpetually carrying with her the 'tude of “Oh, look at what I’m doing, I’m so TOTALLY with it”. I don’t know what it is… but a strong sense of a calculating person looking at her audience very very often, and that the artistry takes a back seat to applause-generation. If she were somehow in a situation where her music and other creativities would not be experienced by anyone else until after her death, my sense is that she would not create anything. Being “artistic” for her seems to me like a means to an end, and it’s all about celebrityhood.
Can’t defend any of that, it’s just a gut impression formed over time.
Two of the better pictures of Yoko I could find. I wish I could find a picture of her from around 1969.
Not hot, but not worthy of the 35 years of being called ugly that she got.
Jim
Aren’t we
Careful examination of my post will reveal to you that I anticipated your question. I’ll repeat myself and extend my answer for anyone who don’t get it on the first reading:
With people in the media, there is the public personna they create, and who they really are. They are not necessarily the same. I do not think Yoko Ono’s public personna was all that hot. I don’t know about her personal self. John Lennon prolly did. That’s what I said in my post. Really, it’s all there. Read it again and see.
Bit of a nitpick, but Picasso DID get called an asshole, and much worse beside. Along with tons of anecdotal evidence.
I always wondered whether, as she became more and more nude, people brought back the pieces to cover her up.
She has a cute face.
Another bit of a nitpick (also related to Ukulele Ike’s post): The Modern Lovers album was actually recorded in 1973, though not released 'til '76. We music geeks live for such minutiae.
From the admittedly little I’ve seen of her (on t.v., not in person), I’d say she looks better now than in the past. I have a vague recollection of seeing her on some awards show over the last few years and thinking that she had turned into a rather ‘handsome’ woman. She seemed softer, more feminine and more attractive to me by far than she ever did during during her Lennon years.
WOW, she is smokin hot
Yoko One
She’s got one of those very plain everday faces where nothing really stands out, or comes together. She’s not ugly. she’s just plan.
Moderator interjects (even if somewhat late): HEY! That kind of language may not be directed against another poster in Cafe Society. You can ask “How do you know?” but “How would you know?” and certainly “How in the screaming bloody fuck would you know?” is out of bounds. That’s making comments about the poster, not about the entertainer, and that’s neither nice nor called for.
Cool it.
I don’t think so. Very much of the pretencious, "If you don’t ‘get’ my art, it must be because you are too stupid to understand it’ school. One of the things that attracted John to her, supposedly - because he ‘got it’; and they spent lots of time laughing at the ‘squares’ who didn’t.