One of my favorite early childhood memories was watching ‘Chief Knock-a-Homa’ at Braves games charge out of his tepee before each game and do a dance on the pitcher’s mound. Then he’d racee back to his tepee, which was located in the left field stands, and stay in there until a Braves batter hit a “homa.” At that time the “Chief” would emerge from his tepee and do a dance. He was funny!
It’s not the Cinci Damn Commies? It’s very offensive to all my friends in the CP.
Courage, comrades.
I’m not suggesting “warrior” refers only to American Indians, but when you combine the name “Warriors” with the image of a war-painted Indian, the connection in unmistakable. Nor do I suggest this is demeaning of Indians. The Warrior images I’ve seen among high school mascots are invariable fierce, proud and dignified.
Perhaps 50 to 55 years ago, Stanford University’s football team was known as the Stanford Indians…but then for one reason or another a decision was made that the use of the word Indian was purjorative and the name changed to the Stanford Cardinal…a sterile word in the opinion of so many of us at the time.
As has been said above, Indians were brave warriors and we were proud to have the team Stanford Indians…calling them redskins was no dishonor in my opinion.
Nah, Stanford’s sports program brings discredit to the school in other ways. Or at least it has twice in recent memory.
One of my labmates at U of Miami (not to be mistaken with Miami U) was a Seminole; he would have been able to get a better job elsewhere but wanted to stay in FL so he could some day join the Elders (he couldn’t be in the Council if he was in Colorado, see). He said that his family always kidded him about being in the wrong school 
Sure doesn’t sound to me like they took offense from the name!
If memory serves the Stanford Indians’ Heisman Trophy Winning QB of 1970 Jim Plunkett was (and still is) an American Indian.
I confess to not following Stanford’s sports teams. What two incidents are you referring to?
I would think it stops when you get rid of all the racist and insulting names and mascots. “Redskins” is racist and insulting. “Braves” is not. “Warriors” doesn’t even refer to any ethnicity.
Nobody would accept a team calling itself the “Wops,” but “Mercenaries” would be fine (even if it sounds dumb) despite the fact that many Italians have been mercenaries. “Nips” would be right out but “Ninja” is okay. The lines seem awfully clear to me.
Well, I’m so glad you are so very dead certain of where the line is. I remember when I was that certain of things. My question, “Where does it stop?” doesn’t mean I don’t think a line shouldn’t be drawn. Rather, with the experience I have in life, it’s damn hard to decide where the line goes sometimes, and this is one of those times. To you, “Redskin” is racist but “Brave” is not. Others on this thread already have said they are not offended by “Redskin,” still others are offended by “Braves” (especially with that god-awful tomahawk chop!) Who’s right? How do you know a large group of martial arts enthusiasts wouldn’t be offended by “Ninjas”?
Making fun of the Catholic faith when Notre Dame played there and making fun of the LDS faith when BYU played there.
I guess the athletic department does oversee the marching band when it performs at football games, but that’s a heckuva brush to paint “the sports program” with. Especially considering that “marching band” is not a sport, and its members are not Division 1 athletes. Hell, it’s members are not even all Stanford students. Read this and you should understand just much a part of the sports program the LSJUMB is.
From your very own link, Contrapuntal:
Yes, they’re part of the athletic department.
I think you mean the Superbas (“Superbasm”) sounds like the frenzy that grips NFL fans around the time of the Superbowl).
My personal favorite team name for the Brooklyn franchise back in the early days was the “Bridegrooms”. Just the other day somebody broke a baseball record (most runs allowed by a single pitcher in the first inning?) set back around the turn of the century in a game between the Boston Beaneaters and the Brooklyn Bridegrooms.
Cleveland needs to dump its stupid logo. The team was supposedly named after an actual Native American ballplayer who died at a young age - why not commission an artist to design a logo honoring that player?
It should be noted that the Atlanta Braves are now 19 games back in the NL East. That has nothing to do with the discussion here; I just like saying it. 
They are a volunteer organization, comprised of students and non-students, that performs at football games and other sports events. In that capacity, and that capacity only, the athletic department supervises their activities. The athletic department does not fund the band. It does not recruit for the band. It does not schedule the band’s activities. It does not provide uniforms, tutoring, meals, scholarships, or anythng else associated with being in the athletic department. The director is from the music department. They are no more a part of the athletic department than are the ball boys who clean the floor at basketall games.
You either did did not read the link, or are being deliberately obtuse. You cited two incidents of admittedly bad behavior and attributed them to the “sports program” and the “sports teams.” Perhaps you have an axe to grind, I don’t know, but your mischaracterization of an entire program based on two incidents is unfair, and comes close to malicious misinformation.
I read the link. I see that you are reading stuff into it. The link clearly said that it is supervised by the athletic department.
For your edification, and again, from your own link:
So, try not to confuse “music department” with “athletic department” in your next response.
Where have I done that?
“Supervised by” does not equal “a part of.” In point of fact, I was the first one to note that the band is supervised by the athletic department while at sports events. Just like the security guards. And the hot dog vendors. Neither of whom are part of the athletic department. Your failure to address any of my other points while continuing to harp on the “supervisory” relationship suggests to me that you are grinding your axe on a very dull stone.
The LSJUMB is as much a part of the Stanford atletic department as the various Mormon splinter groups are a part of the LDS. To accuse the entire sports program, as well as the sports teams, of misbehavior, is dishonest. Actually, to accuse the teams of misbehavior based on the two cites concerning the band is a flat out lie. You should know better.
I’d like to know why you’re injecting “at sports events” there, is all. The link you provided says that the band is supervised by the athletic department.
Every step of the way.
In this case, it actually does, albeit a volunteer part of said program.
Already addressed above.
Uh, no. The security guards are part of the campus security operation.
[quote[And the hot dog vendors.[/quote]
Part of the food service operation.
In addition to reading stuff into your own link, now you’re reading stuff into my postings?
Not even close as an analogy. Besides, you’re wrong on that, as already proven.
You should know better, but evidently you don’t. I posted above that the sports program already brings discredit on themselves. You are the one attempting to equate the program with the teams.
I did not lie. And I am not dishonest. Take your false accusations to the Pit if you wish to continue this ridiculous example of your own ability to parse something presented to you.
A sports team called “The Crackers”? Preposterous! 