Water is older than the Sun--agreeing with Genesis Chapter One

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ned12,
for the last couple of days, you have posted nothing but one-liners, often appearing to lack context, while declining to respond to actual challenges to your assertions. I am not sure what your intent may be, but this is a debate forum. While we tolerate witnessing, your last few posts do not even rise to that level of discourse. You are not required to post any particular thought, but I am not required to tolerate threads that serve only to encourage mockery.
Please provide substantive responses or I will need to close this thread.

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Ummm…big whoop?

What does this have to do with showing the existence of a god of some sort, which is what needs to happen in order for the bible to be believable in any manner?

IKR.

Sir, I answered quite a few postings and you saw how impossible and stubborn posters at least claimed to be. I already answered, say, the quest for simple proof that God exists (the universe needs a creator) and you see how they just mock the sensible idea I state. Don’t blame me cause they act so stubborn.

All right. Don’t blame me if they react with inappropriate sarcasm. Here is an answer to the bit about why geologic timelines should be changed down to something at least closer to the Bible time line There was other proof many dinosaurs are not millions of years old (in addition to soft tissue). Quite a few dino fossils have carbon dated (a process not so supposed to be useful in dating fossils over 90,000-100,000 years years old).

Cite, please.

Ned, Tom was talking about posts like this:

which have diddly squat to do with the creation of the universe.

Take a minute to write it. Carbon-14 dating dinosaur bones

We’re stubborn? :dubious:

You ‘witness’ and are shocked, SHOCKED that we don’t accept your word immediately, that we point out the flaws in your arguments and counter-argue?

Perhaps you need more training in ‘how to convince people’. Usually that starts with facts and reason.

All right my only answer I will not go on communicating with someone who acts impossible to reason with. I previously stated that science was the best proof that the Bible is really the word of God. But historical accuracy is good and important too. Now, the two combined make an excellent, powerful double reason to believe the Bible is the word of God (though science would have been pretty much enough alone).
I know it is not as well known a fact as Pompeii that Herod the Great’s Palace remains are excavated and prove (along with coinage) that he existed. I will write more later.

You needn’t feel obligated.

Proving that people and places mentioned in the bible exist does nothing to prove that the rest of the book is true.

Extraordinary Claims require Extraordinary Proof.

If I write a novel, set it in my hometown and populate it with people I know, but claim that Godzilla was rampaging the city and I singlehandedly stopped him with magic, does this mean that these later claims must be true?

Yes. Stubborn!!!
It is instantly impossible to come up with another explanation for the material creation of the universe. As a former atheist I was sold on God the second it was pointed out to me about the universe creation proof. A universe could not create itself. God must exist for that reason alone. But the question is did the people in the Bible who are said to have met Him really do so? The Bible scientific statements being so immensely accurate and increasing more so (along with much historical verification) shows they did.

Well, gosh, as long as you have a credible source!

Nuh uh

Is this your first time witnessing?

Because you do it very poorly.

Yeah, I suppose I should have said “reputable cite.”

I once wrote a webpage about how the moon doesn’t exist. It may still even be around on the internet archive. Would that be a credible cite for a moon hoaxer to use?

I hope I have explained enough. I hope you do not close this up. I cannot go on and on with stubborn, impossible people who will just go on finding fault with whatever I say. I have a life to lead and do other good stuff for God.
I will leave you all with this. Admitting the Bible is really the word of God will send us back to the Middle Ages or even ancient times. You do not have to be afraid of that and pretend you are not convinced by evidence of tremendous Biblical scientific accuracy and historical confirmation.

Okay, that would be convincing.