I didn’t see it, but I believe it’s Persons Unknown.
Should we ask a mod to change the thread title from “S1E1” to “season 1”?
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Good idea. It doesn’t appear that there’s enough interest to justify a thread per episode. I didn’t get around to creating a S1E2 thread and no one else did it and it’s up to episode 3 now.
I just asked the mods to change to title to season 1.
After episode two I was more confused than ever. One confusing thing was Burke seeing his apparently unconscious wife and son being wheeled into hospital rooms when we knew they weren’t there (at least not yet). I was coming to the conclusion that they’re simply playing mind games with Burke, either that or that he really is hallucinating, or maybe a combination of both things. The weirdness in people’s differing conceptions of the passage of time, and seeming to have aged inconsistently could fit into this somehow.
Now, after seeing episode 3 I’m starting to have a more concrete theory that could explain a lot of the weird inconsistencies. It’s some kind of time travel project.
People arrived at WP at different times, relative to time in the outside world and to each other, so their individual conceptions of the passage of time are genuine. His wife and son being wheeled into the hospital were brought back in time by a few days or weeks or months for some reason.
The “monster” or “monsters” on the other side of the wall are dinosaurs, thus explaining at least somewhat the draconian discipline needed for survival.
Why this place was created, and why people are taken there against their will and kept ignorant of the situation is still to be explained.
The weird facility with the various tunnels, one of which is labeled “Wayward Pines” (I didn’t notice if any of the others were labeled) makes me wonder if there are other “towns” like WP.
I’m not asking for confirmation or denial of my theories if you’ve read the books. I’d like to be surprised.
Is anyone else thinking along similar lines? Any other theories?
So far I’m mostly enjoy the series. I read the books a year or so ago and thought they were good. Without spoiling anything I believe that a good amount of answers will be coming in a couple of episodes, and if they want they could end the series after one season. Hopefully they will get to the answers soon and not piss me and everyone else off and leave it for further seasons.
Done.
(my quote from earlier)
I guess we took care of this issue.
Now, as for where it’s heading, I’m still not sure about it. While I do like dark shows like this, I don’t like ‘frustrating’ ones. By that I mean, it bugged me that for three episodes Ethan made no progress at all. It was getting annoying. He was getting nowhere, his calls weren’t getting out, Pope was tracking him, the nurse, that doctor, the village people, everything was against him, to the point that his only real choice was to give in. It was frustrating me.
I’d rather he got out, got back to HQ, let them know what’s going on, had to sneak back in, whatever, but it was almost getting boring, they didn’t need three episodes to make their point.
Then, just as he was getting out, the wife and kid got sucked in, c’mon. :smack:
Anyways, I did like the end of E3. I remember when Ethan showed up thinking he needed to say ‘one of us is going to die’.
I really, really hope things start moving forward now.
I also really hope that something supernatural didn’t just happen.
Regarding the time travel and how long they’ve been there, I have no idea what’s been going on with that. On top of that, it seems that some people have ‘been there’ longer than others (but I may be misremembering things). And with that, I’ll really be annoyed with myself if this is one of those ‘it was all a dream’ shows as he wakes up from a heroin binge.
#DrugstoreCowboy #Newhart. #KellyLynchComeBack
*If anyone read the books and can explain it in a non-spoiler type way, it might be helpful. Ya know, like in The Hunger Games when they left out the first 60 pages of the first book and people didn’t understand the connection Katniss and the baker kid had.
Also, are the books worth reading? What if you’ve seen the show? 10 books is a lot of reading, at least for me. Especially at 300+ pages per book (at least for the two that I looked at). And I’m a slow reader. So I’d be looking at at least a month per book. It would go well beyond the course of the show.
If anyone decides to try to do what Joey P asked for, please put it in spoiler tags.
Yes, I missed the edit window and moved that part to a new post which means I also lost the asterisk. I think (I don’t even remember now), that I was just looking for clarification on why most people have their time screwed up and some people (even people like Beverly) don’t. But I’m only curious if it can be explained in a non-spoilery way. If not, no need to say anything. Now that I think more about it, it seemed like with Beverly, whatever they did to her ‘didn’t take’. But they also didn’t do anything to Ethan or his wife and kid. Again, why?
As of right now, it just seems like a plot device since if they did, there wouldn’t be a show since all those people would just be a few more Stepford Wives, never fighting to get out.
On the other hand, Kate clearly remembers the past and I guess their mantra is ‘never talk about the past’.
I’m so confused.
I really hope I can look back at this show and tell people ‘really, watch it, really just stick with it for a few episodes, it’s so good’.
I thought it was obvious. The inconsistencies as to how long different people have been there can be explained by time travel. The woman who disappeared from the outside world several weeks ago has been there for years because they took her back in time. Actually, I should say that they took her back in time further than they took Burke. All of them are in the distant past, during the time of dinosaurs (the “monsters” outside the wall).
That’s my theory at least.
You’re not supposed to understand it yet. You’re asking for clarification of something that is yet to be revealed (although I have a theory). Explaining it would be a spoiler.
I rewound and played back the part with the monster taking the sheriff’s body in slow-mo.
Clearly humanoid but also clearly not human, possibly covered in silver fur. Definitely walked on two legs. It looked pretty similar to the Twilight Zone airplane gremlin.
Nothing about it made me think of the time of dinosaurs.
Maybe I wasn’t paying attention. I didn’t think they actually showed the monster. I’ll have to look at it again.
It just seemed like, with the other time travel clues, dinosaurs would make sense. But if they showed it and it wasn’t a dinosaur, then I guess not.
Well, if Wayward Pines is actually a small town that exists millions of years ago, that would certainly be interesting.
Another question is why the locals from down the road just call it a ‘nothing town’ as if they know about it. And how can they have that giant wall up that no one from around the area knows exists. I suppose that it might have ‘government area’ type signs on so people just stay away. But then people wouldn’t call it a ‘nothing town’, they’d call it a government owned town. There gas station kid would have had more to say about it to an out of towner.
Yes, I am asking questions about it, but I think that’s part of why we have the thread. Also, IMO, unless you have knowledge that the rest of us don’t, making guesses isn’t a spoiler. I’ve never understood why people spoiler their theories about where they think a show is going to go in future episodes.
I’ll grant you that if you know something (maybe you read an article from a reviewer that saw the entire season, you already downloaded the whole show on BitTorrent, live where they film it, read the books etc), but otherwise, guess away…IMO.
Yes, theories don’t need to be spoilered, but you didn’t ask for theories. You asked for clarification from somebody who had read the books.
You’re right, I think I just misunderstood what I quoted above from you.
But I was just asking in case it could be explained without being spoilered, maybe it can.
I mentioned an example. In The Hunger Games movie they left out the first 60 pages or so. I had a few friends mention to me, after watching the movie, that there was clearly something going on between Katniss and the Gale (who I mistakenly referred to as the baker boy before, wrong person, that’s Peeta), but they didn’t know what. At the beginning of the first book it’s explained that Gale and Katniss have a connection (best friends, he loves her, her, she doesn’t quite feel the same way back, but still BFFs). But, like I said, that was all left out in the movie, nothing. It’s one of those things that had they at least touched on it, the movie would have made more sense and had a lot more depth and meaning to it. You can tell that to someone before they see the movie and you won’t ruin anything by it.
Here, I was just asking if there was something similar going on. Some non-spoilery reason as to why most of the residents are all Stepford Wives but a few seem to rebel and try to escape.
It might have been as simple as ‘well, they did do the memory zap, but it doesn’t take for everyone’ or 'everyone in WP has simply chosen to assimilate, ‘cept for those few, they get reckoned’ or something else that, like I said, won’t ruin anything but might make some people say 'okay, that makes sense, I’m not going to give up because of this (what I’m calling at this point) plot hole"
Maybe there isn’t an answer that can be said right now. Maybe there is. Whatever it is, I hope they give it to us soon.
I don’t think there’s any good way of saying anything in a non spoiler way. I didn’t know there were that many books, and I know that at least a few of them are rather short. I only found the books because I’m a fan on F Paul Wilson and he wrote one of the short stories. They can be read independently, and while it does spoil the first book a bit it doesn’t destroy it.
I need to go back and see which ones I’ve read, I only remember reading 2-3 at most.
This isn’t a spoiler from the books, it’s from a reviewer online:
The big reveal is supposed to happen in episode 5. I remember that happening about half way through the book so it’s about right.
I wasn’t sure if that was a spoiler either, but I posted it earlier in the thread (after I watched the first episode. I’m really hanging on for that. But this weeks episode was pretty promising.
Like I said, I hope things move forward. I’m worried that tomorrow Ethan will wake up and Pope will be right there like nothing happened or some underling will have moved up and be, more or less, identical. IOW, like it was just another thing he did that got him nowhere.
Any reasons given for any of those things would be spoilers. You’re not yet supposed to know the reasons.
That’s part of the fun; being totally confused and then bam, there’s a reveal and it all makes sense.
At least we hope that’s what happens. It remains to be seen.