Well…
What an unlikeable fellow.
Well there’s an unneccessary semantic distinction.
Oh c’mon! You seem to think I’m Christian. I’m not, I’m an Atheist. I dislike all gods equaly. Having that out of the way I have another scenario for you:
A man stops by a mosque. He takes his shoes off. He washes his face, hands and feet. He bends down and turns to Mecca. He thanks his god the revenge dealt upon the infidels.
Is this man praying to the same god President Bush was refering?
You’re telling me the birth of two major religions involved a profet at some pont in time. So? Doesn’t the same god use the same religious code of conduct?
If they truly take delight in such a tragedy, there is no hope for such a people - None.
This place never ceases to amaze me at the inability of some to simply be outraged by outrageous behavior.
Moral equivalence sucks.
I am an atheist but I dislike some gods more than others. May Allah forever be fruitful farming his pigs in hell.
Who’s not outraged? I find this disgusting, albeit predictable.
Uh, yeah, actually, gobear is right. Christians, Jews, and Muslims all worship the same God- call him Father, Allah, Yahweh, Who Is, whatever. It’s the same guy. They call him by different names and they have some different rules, but they’re all worshipping the same deity. Kinda ironic, isn’t it?
Getting back to the OP, what can you really expect? The Iraqis hate the US. Regardless of the personal politics of any country involved in this, the fact is that the US did kill many, many Iraqi soldiers and civilians during the Gulf War. That sort of thing usually doesn’t sit well with the populace, regardless of whether or not they feel they or anyone else were justified in their war-time actions.
And to everyone who feels rage and anger right now at what this random Iraqi mechanic said, well, I’m with you. The guy’s an asshole, and has no grasp of the laws of causality. But cheering when the US finally unloads on Iraq is, IMO, just as bad as that mechanic.
No, JohnnyIsGood, it is NOT required for religious practices to be the same in order to worship the same God. Or are you saying the the Catholics, the Lutherans, and each of the miriad sects of Baptist are each worshiping a different God from all the others?
Milossarian, I think it’s more that some liberal, educated genuinely decent people think that everyone else in the world is also liberal, educated, and genuinely decent.
And you’re just an arse.
We really should take this to another thread. Notice I did not say religious practices, I said religious code of conduct.
Uh, why? There is only room for one?
Yes there is. Ilan Ramon, the Israeli astronaut participated in the bombing. So there’s not a ** real** connection but if you’re inclinded to believe in shit like divine retribution against your enemies- well you can see how their thinking went.
What gods?
Jews worship the God of Abraham. Jesus was a Jew whose message was based on the fact that he was the Son of God (of Abraham). Mohammad-- to Muslims-- was the final in a long line of prophets from God that included Abraham and Jesus.
No where in the history of these three religions did any new “gods” spring up-- only new beliefs, practices and philosophies. That’s what people mean that Jews, Muslims and Christians worship the same God.
These jackholes from Iraq quoted in the OP should in no way represent the Iraqi people as a whole, or for that matter, Islam. There are people in Iraq who want the U.S. to help remove Saddam. I know this because I know Iraqi immigrants with family still in Iraq who have told me this.
Now as to these opinons held by these jackholes from the news story about Jews/Israel: yes, many, if not most, Arabs in the world are angry with Israel/Jews. But this mechanic’s belief that God is avenging some wrong-doing against Arabs is just absurd.
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From JohnnyIsGood
Nope. Not fair to typify the population of a country by the words of a few assholes. Of course, many of these people seem to be the ones on power.
Still, don’t cast a shadow over the Iraqis or the muslims because of a few morons who can’t stop their gums from flapping.
I must admit that my first reaction to this statement consisted of “Fuck 'em. Bomb 'em. Shut them the fuck up.” After reading this thread, I changed my mind. We still don’t need a war, though I wouldn’t cry if a large piece of debris somehow managed to find its way up into this bastards ass crack.
Forgive my crudeness.
This place never ceases to amaze me at the inability of some to separate the views of a few from those of a whole people.
Ill-considered generalization sucks.
And had this accident happened to an Iraqi shuttle mission, I’m sure a journo could have found just as many Americans/Australians/Europeans cheering in celebration. Arseholes come in all colours: Iraq does not have a monopoly on stupid uncaring fuckwits.
Yes, of course this sort of reaction is to be expected, but I’m damn sure there are many more people in the Middle East who are today mourning with you in this tragedy.
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So I’ll be pleased when you point out where the OP’er did that.
Really? Show me one example of Americans “cheering in celebration” over Iraqi deaths. One celebration.
If there are many more people in the ME who are mourning with us, why have we not heard from them?