I’m quite comfortable with it staying in this thread - it seems directly relevant to the central issue to me.
And I can tell just by the look in his eyes that he raped every girl in that picture, too.
The guy sounds like he’s a bit of an odd duck who also maybe socially retarded.
He is doing this with the men as well after all.
Really? You think a debate about your poor use of analogies is a central issue of this thread?
I think a debate about generalizations and perceptions of large groups of people based on gender (or, indeed, ethnicity or any other factor) in the face of people producing opinions about an entire 50% of the world’s population is* fundamental* to this thread.
Just drop it if you’re not interested. You don’t have to debate the issue, but your repeated insults are getting - pardon the topical reference - fucking creepy.
Debate the issue or not. It’s relevant. But you haven’t engaged it at all despite my good-faith attempts to do so - you’ve just repeatedly insulted me. That, my friend, is creepy.
And all because you think I made a poor analogy? Wow.
This whole thing started with your analogy which suggested that being an overprotective father being the same as being a racist. Your subject resented the insinuation, and resented that you went off the deep end to demonstrate that his reaction was inaccurate. I concurred with his reaction, and felt that your deliberate hyperbole was a poor way to make a point. If you’d really wanted to debate the merits of generalizations as they relate to one another, you’d start a GD thread about it. This isn’t about thinking every guy is a rapist, it’s about thinking that guys who engage in socially odd behavior that is perceived as abnormal and slightly aggressive towards young (read: not likely to respond forcefully) women, just might be the type of guy to keep an eye on. Plumbcrazy’s contribution was that he understood the innate suspicion as a father. He expressed it a little more crudely than the manner in which you would like to debate the issue, but I can see his perspective. Your efforts to demonstrate that overprotective father’s view on the world were somehow congruous to the way a hardcore racist sees and interacts with the world are fundamentally flawed.
But like I said earlier, your extrapolations from this thread would probably be better suited to another thread, no matter how central to this issue you might believe it to be.
But this is where your analogy is wrong. Nobody is drawing conclusions about all men. People in here are drawing suspicions about only men who act in a creepy way. That is why your analogy to racism is off base. It’s in no way what is happening here because it is fundamentally behavioral in nature, not about gender.
When women go through menopause, they scream at men.
When men go through menopause, they talk to women.
But because some small percentage of men are indeed rapists, the talkers are in for greater condemnation than the screamers. That’s not fair, but it’s simply an aspect of how bad rape is, and how everybody suffers, not just the victims.
But they are. The analogy to which you disagree was posted directly in response to a poster who did, indeed, refer to all men. It’s in the same post - I quoted it in my reply.
And your “point” was to open a thread wide dialogue on the dangers of generalizations and how they open the slippery slope to racism. Remember?
Presumably this means your analogy had a thread-wide relevance, not just to the comments of that particular poster.
“Point” in quotes again, huh?
Sorry, not interested in engaging with you further. You win. Or something. Well done, you.
Impeccable proof that women are making this shit up, pretty clearly.
Here’s an idea, why don’t you ask your mother, your sister, your wife, your daughters and your female office mates. Come back and tell us how many of them have been groped.
Bonus points for you if dare to ask them if the gropers were, “anyone whose behaviour even indicates that they might be such perverts”.
You’re kind of like every naive 12 yr old girl, unwilling to believe the world is populated by such opportunists, no matter how many times her parents try to warn her. I won’t argue with you any further because you’re going to believe what you want regardless of what your sisters and cousins say. The 12 yr old girl wises up when a 30 yr old gym teacher, she’s known and trusted for 2 yrs, opportunistically gropes her, when they are alone together.
One cannot help but wonder if anything can wise you up.
:shrug: You were the one who wanted to discuss the issue so badly. You also failed to demonstrate how your analogy was relevant, in the face of criticism. So you beg for people to engage in your hijack, and then when it doesn’t hold water on scrutiny, you take your ball and go home. Good plan.
I think this thread has been hijacked beyond repair-if y’all want to continue exchanging sneers and spitballs, do it elsewhere.
Closing thread.