This article on Sharks implies Cuban and Grenier made almost twice as many deals as O’Leary and Herjavec. However, the amount O’Leary has invested is roughly the same as Grenier and Herjavec. O’Leary likes his royalties.
This article gives different numbers and lists the most successful products.
I remember that election. Pierre Trudeau didn’t always try to avoid media appearances during that campaign; I seem to recall one very famous incident at the University of Toronto’s Scarborough College, where he was speaking. And while he was speaking, his supporters were beating up Conservative protestors and supporters outside the venue. No cites except me, I’m afraid; I was in the audience that day. But the beatings were reported in the media, both regular media and university media. And I can assure you that the regular media was there. I caught a SunGun from a TV camera in the face as Trudeau was leaving, and could barely see for two minutes after.
But you’re right; as I recall, he tried to stay pretty low-key in that campaign, preferring to let the Liberals campaign on their platform, without him stealing the spotlight in debates and other public appearances.
I don’t know if Justin trying the same thing would have worked this time around, but I guess we’ll never know now. At any rate, I will be interested in who the Liberals select as their next leader. I always thought there were better choices than Justin Trudeau at the last leadership convention, and I suppose now those and other candidates will get their chance to try.
The chatter was about him crossing the floor to the Cons.
And now it will benefit Pierre. Polling shows a majority of people in this country do not want a right wing party in power, but that is what we are going to get.
It just galls me that someone could even say that, after everything that’s gone on the last eight years.
Trump winning in 2016? Trudeau managed that whole mess pretty well.
The pandemic? We did way better than the US did. In large part because of decent leadership.
Massive inflation? He was personally blamed for a world-wide phenomenon. Literally no Canadian PM could have done much of anything to stop that.
Oh, but now he’s facing “tough times” that he “can’t handle”?
Until it wasn’t (and isn’t).
Well said
Maybe you’ve forgotten this thread I started on November 5, 2015. You participated in it. Here are the first and last paragraphs of the OP:
I’m just getting more and more enthused about this guy. Frankly the Liberal party as an institution has a chequered history, but Justin Trudeau is, to coin a perhaps ironic phrase, not your father’s Liberal Party. His cabinet was just sworn in, and Day 1 on the job begins. CBC has full coverage of the cabinet members which I think are all impressive …
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This is a picture of Trudeau, his wife and some of his new cabinet presumably walking to Rideau Hall on the day of swearing-in. McKenna is the one on the far left. There are autumn leaves in the background but, call me an old sap, looking at all those bright young people – and remembering what we had before – I feel like calling it “springtime in Canada”.
I was enthused about Justin Trudeau then, and to a large extent I still am today. I agree with all your points – he did manage Trump quite well, finalized a trade deal, and handled the pandemic much better than the US did.
I’m sorry to see him go, particularly at such a precarious time for Canada. But the fact is that he really is facing tough times – perhaps unsurvivably tough. Trump 2.0 is shaping up to be immeasurably worse than the first term, Canada’s economy is under threat, and Trudeau is under attack from all sides, including from within his own party.
In these circumstances he has chosen to resign. Maybe he had no real choice, and maybe much of the blame falls on attackers within his own party who undermined his leadership, but it’s going to leave Canada without effective leadership just as Trump assumes power. It’s sad, frustrating, and rather frightening.
Well that’s the only way he loses my vote. I will vote for a supporter of the person I call Peter Rabbitskin.
Yeah, but that was going to happen no matter how this played out.
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Trudeau resigns sometime between the US election and now, and just goes. We get stuck with an interim PM that we know won’t be long term, just as Trump starts to fuck around, knowing the PM is a lame duck.
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Trudeau does what he did - announces a resignation, but stays on until the new Liberal leader is elected. No matter the specific timing, JT is now the lame duck PM, just as Trump starts to fuck around.
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JT sticks it out, and loses a confidence vote in January. An election is called, just as Trump starts to fuck around.
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Somehow, JT hangs on until the Fall, when we must have an election. Everyone knows he’s going to lose, so he’s a lame duck PM for 7 or 8 months, dealing with much Trump fuckery. Trump knows he’s a lame duck and is even more arrogant and dismissive of JT specifically, and Canada in general.
I can’t imagine any scenario for how the next 8 to 12 months would play out differently. We were basically hosed as soon as Trump won the election. The only way we could have had solid leadership in place to deal with Trump is if we called an election last fall. Would anyone have wanted to run an election just after Trump won? Campaigning almost until Christmas, and then trying to put together a proper government over New Years, hoping to have it all in place before Trump takes over? What a mess than would have been!
Poilievre has an enormous lead, and going too far to the right might be the only thing that makes him lose his majority or fail to be in power for eight years or so.
It’s interesting that ‘standing up to Trump’ has leapt to number one with a bullet qualities we want to see in our next Prime Minister.
And with today’s threat to wage economic war with Canada, Mr. Trump may accidentally be influencing Canadians to elect someone whom we perceive to be ‘unfriendly’ with Mr. Trump.
We shall see what happens with abortion rights and social programs. Pierre is only there because the right wing radicals thought neither Scheer or O’Toole were far enough right (and Bernier too wacky even for them). I am resigned to one term, but unsure if he will stick around for a second. I could see a progressive coalition knocking the Cons out if PP starts doing stupid(er) shit.
The reason Harper downplayed social conservatism issues is that he felt there was little public appetite for renewing discussions on abortion and similar things, but considerable political risk. Private schools seem somewhat more acceptable. Of course, times can change and provinces may have differing views.
I know Trump is trolling us for the shits and giggles of Maga asses and as part of his concept of negotiations, but this really, really pisses me off.
I used to enjoy visiting the US and enjoyed meeting many of the Americans I did. I can’t now. So much of the heinous shit they have allowed to happen in their country in the past few years is just unfathomable. To reelect this stupid arrogant corrupt shit stain is just unbelievable. I could not spend a dime of my money on people who supported this mess, or interact with them without resentment and disgust.
I was formulating something almost exactly like that to post in the pit’s “f Trump and his supporters” thread, but you put it here (and better than I would have), and just let that stand as it is.
So - will PP keep his word?
If Trump is actually serious about somehow acquiring us, and if Pollievre continues to stand up to him even under serious economic threats, I’ll have to give PP credit where it’d be due, if it ever even comes to such an insanely escalated situation.
I’d bet Zimbabwean dollars PP would eventually roll over.
ETA: I think discourse must be having some issues lately with showing article previews.
ETA II: Feel sorry for whoever replaces Trudeau, having to deal with Trump until the October(?) election.
Before the election there was a very active thread in P&E (still there, just a little quieter now) called “Is Trump Confused?” and there are many examples in that thread of Trump utterly losing his goddamn mind in a way that can be nothing less than dementia. The spotlight was off Trump for a while but now that he’s in front of the cameras all the time again we are starting to see the return of truly demented Trump. So while I despise everything he is saying, I measure the increasing level of craziness as a sign that he doesn’t have long to live. And to tie that back into the topic, I will say that as a Canadian, I’m not going to worry about Trump’s latest blathering about Canada’s potential fate because I know time and chance happens to them all, even him.
Consider that only 77,284,118 people voted for him out of an adult population of 258.3 million, so you’re being unfair to more than 70% of the adult population.
I am maybe being unfair to the 40 percent that actually got out and voted for Kamala, but any eligible voter that didn’t vote is just as responsible. Laziness, ignorance, or dogmatic obstinance are inexcusable in an election with such consequences. Fuck those people.
This upcoming clusterfuck will strongly adversely affect myself, my family and my business, along with the entire rest of the world that can’t vote in a US election.
When I visit the US or buy US products I generally don’t know how the people I am dealing with voted. All I know is that the majority voted for a fascist and incompetent fool.
You’re damning a lot of innocent people. There are 334 million living in the US. 77.3 million did vote for Trump incredibly regrettably and I will go so far as to say idiotically. 77.3 M out of 334 M is hardly a majority. 1 out of every 4.3 people voted for Trump. Go yell at them.
A majority of citizens who voted voted for Trump, a very different thing.