Goo-Fee - Take a valium and shut the fuck up you rabid, frenzied, fuckheaded, shoulda-been-a-blowjob, waste of carbon.
Golly, maybe if all those Sand-Hugging Heathens had valium, maybe they’d calm down enough to stop killing all us God-Loving Defenders of the Good Graces of the Most Splendourous Crusades.
No, not at all, most Muslims are good people. But there is a dangerous movement within Islam that is not insignificant and that is antithetical to the values of civilization as well as being contrary to the higher aims of the faith of Islam.
Coldfire–
Actually, I am channelling Ghandi right now. Unfortunately, the reception isn’t very good and Jack the Ripper keeps coming in periodically.
Seriously though, I expect Ghandi had about the same tolerence for this hateful bigotry as I do. He was just a hell of a lot nicer about it.
I AM SICK OF THESE FUCKS! You don’t like the Earth and it’s mixture of different creeds and religions?
GO FIND ANOTHER PLANET.
GANDHI, people!
G A N D H I.
If you’re going to use him as an appeal to moral authority at least take the time to spell his name right before you go spewing.
Dude, who are you SHOUTING at? Who said anything about not liking or tolerating a mixture of creeds and religions? You can believe whatever you want, makes no difference to me. I’d appreciate it if you would, you know, not try to blow me up and shit. Is that asking to much? I think it is our Muslim terrorist friends whom we are all sick of. Or are those the FUCKS you had in mind? If they are, then I think we are in agreement. They should find another planet, and let us live in peace on this one.
Please guys, don’t give the good Doctor the satisfaction…
Testy, I can understand what you’re saying and why you’re saying it right now. You’re right in the middle of it. I know if I were in that situation, I’d probably be saying something pretty pissy and possibly just as incorrect. So I think maybe y’all should go easy on him until he’s had some time to process this. He’s obviously not a bad guy, just a guy who’s mightily (and justifiably) pissed off and using some generalizations in a rash moment.
wring: I had compassion, until he started ranting about how the entire religion is to blame. Regardless of what else Testy has done, or is doing in his life, Gozu described the situation perfectly.
The very second he apologizes to the billion or so Muslims, I’ll say, “Good on ya; glad to see you rejoin humanity.”
I see news footage of the event. I also see ambulances, paramedics, and others involved. Pray tell, Testy, are any of those rescue workers Muslim?
Since everyone seem to be so fond of ripping into one another this evening maybe this thread will be of interest to everyone. It might be better to debate the presence/absence of some terrorist element and/or teaching with someone who has rather thoroughly studied the religion.
That’s right, Monty, because making an emotional, racist remark at a time of great stress definitely merits confiscation of their “member of humanity” card. Good thing you’re not actually there to kick him while you’re tearing it up for him.
Seconded. Monty, you are truly beneath contempt, and contempt is what I hold for bogus faith healers and child abusing priests. At least wait until testy’s washed that little girl’s blood out of his fucking shirt before you smack him down for being politically incorrect.
Asshole.
Quite true. Why, then, the direct comparisons in your first post between Islam and the Khmer Rhouge, the Nazis, and the Taliban?
If you’re going to target a specific, tiny subset of Islam, perhaps you should use a smaller brush.
As for Testy, may I suggest northern Idaho for your next home?
The Amish will be next. A terrorist barn-raising in a heavily populated area. You heard it here first.
Who is actually under the impression that someone would take the time to post on this silly MB with some kid’s blood still all over him?
Pull the other one, it’s got bells on.
Considering that he beat Google News by an hour in reporting this, I’d say he’s real.
I didn’t say he wasn’t, now did I?
About 12-20 million. But no, that’s not the answer. First of all Wahhabi is indisputedly an Islamic sect, albeit an extreme an puritannical one. You can call it a sect, which is what it is. But unlike Farrakhan’s Nation of Islam, it doesn’t really come close to qualifying as a separate religion. To refer to it as such would simply be inaccurate.
Second, Wahhabism is not the sole font of terrorism in the Islamic world. Rather it is one source and almost certainly not the biggest.
Most Wahhabis, no matter what you may think of their restrictive faith, are not terrorists, just like most ( equally puritannical and restrictive ) Ultra-Orthodox Jews aren’t.
Well, I can give you at least one more - Boeremag, dubbed by some the ‘Afrikaaner al-Qaeda’. An extemist white Christian militant group in South Africa that has some similarities to the Christian Identity Movement, with the difference being that theydo advocate and take credit for bombingsa and assassinations. Their roots may be found in the most extreme elements of the pre-reform, Apartheid-era Soth African Dutch Reformed Church, which before its later disavowal, used to justify apartheid in religious terms.
That said, I’d certainly agree that such groups are far less common in Christianity. More on that in a second.
The Sinhalese situation manhatten was referring to is probably the Buddhist chauvinism ( which includes, or at least at one time included, monastic agitating for retaliatory violence ) which played a part in the fostering of Tamil separatism in Sri Lanka. Some numbers of Tamil civilians have been butchered in the sectarian violence on Sri Lanka, though since the government represents the Sinhala majority, I’m not aware if any specific Sinhalese terrorist cells eist ( though it wouldn’t suprise me if they did ).
Similarly some ( certainly a minority ) of the advocates of Hindutva in India, sort of a combo of Hindu nationalism/religious supremacy, which includes the dominant BJP Party, have been implicated in sectarian violence. For example the group Sewa Bharati, which had their political status revoked after being implicated in attacks on Christians in central India or Bajrang Dal, another political organization which has been fingered as helping incite anti-Muslim violence in places like Gujarat ( actually there are abut 50 of these groups, from the tiny to the huge, like The BJP, all with differing, but overlapping agendas ). Certainly none of these groups formally advocate terrorism, but many members have undoubtedly been involved in what can only be described as religiously-motivated terrorism against Christian and Muslim minorities.
Then there are also Sikh terrorist groups like Babbar Khalsa, which like, say, Hamas, have an ideology based on a potent mix of nationalism and religious chauvinism.
That said…
I couldn’t agree more. Islam does have an internal problem and more so than other major world religions. In point of fact I’d agree that Islam in general is structurally more vulnerable to this sort of extremism than other major faiths. Hardly unique in its capacity for extremism - Far from it. But perhaps a bit more prone to it. This can in part be explained in origins of Islam as a militant political force that arose in the midst of an armed struggle for survival. The current predicament of much of the Muslim world and particularly the Arab world, just feeds into that.
But that certainly doesn’t invalidate Islam as a faith, nor make it inherently bloodthristy. There are plenty of pious, pacifist Muslims and a far, far larger number of simply peaceful Muslims. Most Muslims are such. If Islam was a religion of untrammeled volence, that wouldn’t be the case. Therefore condemning Islam as a whole is illogical.
But I’m not going to jump on someone for an emotional reaction after a tragedy.
Testy - Best of luck to you and your family.
- Tamerlane
Then what were you saying, if not implying that the implausibility of him posting here while still bloodstained means that he’s bullshitting us?