What time tomorrow will the vote be called? I am looking at wedding cakes tomorrow out of town (actually, I’d kind of rather be lynched than doing that, but let’s not get the grim fantasy life too mixed up with grim reality 
) and don’t want to miss casting a vote, esp. when my neck is apparently in the realm of being stretched.
Or, upon posting, what Suburban Plankton said would really help me out.
[QUOTE=jsgoddess]
They didn’t even throw a vote toward someone who was in no danger. Is that more suspicious, or less?
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I’m going to mark it down as “less suspicious” for now, using the premise that they didn’t have enough evidence to justify a vote in their own minds. As for voting for someone in no danger at the time, the voting can turn around pretty quickly from what I’ve seen.
It just seems more likely to me that a wolf would vote no matter what, because they don’t have to worry about accidentally casting a vote towards their own team.
[QUOTE=Rubystreak]
I’m trying to be rational about it and not personal, because my feeling is that rational criteria should work better.
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If I was going to be irrational about it, I should think I’d be flying off the handle at Wanderers right about when he voted for me. Explain to me how my method is irrational.
That’s not what I said at all, and it’s not true. I never went after JSexton when people were already voting to lynch him, and no one can call him a lurker. What I’m saying is, I’m going to run everything through my bullshit detector and see what stinks.
Go read page 4 and tell me again that I’m condoning lurkers. Furthermore, just a little while ago I said Captain Carrot had jumped on 3 bandwagons with little more reason given than, “I agree with so-and-so.” One of those happened to be Menocchio, sure, but the others were JSexton and moonstarssun, who we now know were townies because they are dead. Carrot hasn’t posted much.
So I have the power to cover for my packmates, but you don’t have the power to keep your packmates off the radar? How’s that work again?
Voting is always random if you’re a werewolf. You can vote for anyone who’s not your packmate and you’ll come out ahead. But if you’re a townie, it is to your benefit to try to figure out who’s a werewolf and vote for them.
[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]
I think we should leave it at 8 until we get down to 14 players, then knock it down once a day or so, keeping the number at 50%.
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This sounds better than my suggestion, actually.
[QUOTE=sturmhauke]
If I was going to be irrational about it, I should think I’d be flying off the handle at Wanderers right about when he voted for me. Explain to me how my method is irrational.
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Do you think you really have solid evidence that someone is a werewolf? I don’t. I’m going by what I do know, which is that some people are holding out on us. Admittedly, I don’t know why, and they might be town.
Yeah, I guess I’m not as good at that as you claim to be… or who knows? Maybe I am. No one I’ve voted for has actually been lynched.
I agree. I wish I knew what that meant.
You seem to me to be trying to draw me and others away from voting for lurkers. I am not trying to dissuade anyone from voting for anyone. Who am I trying to keep off people’s radar, exactly? You, however, are trying to convince me that voting for lurkers is a bad policy. THAT seems like covering for lurkers. OTOH, your accusation that I’m covering from someone? I don’t see how I’m doing that. People who are posting regularly are speaking for themselves. People who are not should be encouraged to do so. The only means we have to do that is to threaten to lynch them for their silence. Am I wrong about that? What exactly is your problem with what I’m saying?
I’m not the only one who is saying that I can’t tell. I don’t think too many of us have a clue.
Really, I’m honestly confounded by what I’m saying that’s so wrong here. I’m trying to figure out who’s a werewolf, just like you. People need to talk more, not just the same 5 people who are dominating the conversation. How do we do that?
I’m voting for Rubystreak.
Methinks she doth protest too much
I vote for MadThe Swine - I think he voted for me to draw attention away from his own flea-bitten self.
Where the heck is Wanderers hiding?
[QUOTE=Rubystreak]
Do you think you really have solid evidence that someone is a werewolf?
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I said earlier that I didn’t. Only a few roles can get absolute proof on other players, and then they still have to figure out how to convince everyone else.
Now your just repeating arguments I’ve already responded to. I don’t have anything against voting for lurkers, it’s just that right now I’m busy voting for you.
My problem is that voting for lurkers seems to be your only strategy. I find reliance on one strategy to the exclusion of others to be suspicious. There are other reasons as well. You claimed that Miller was casting a retaliatory vote against you, but I don’t see any retaliation there. Let’s not forget that JSexton brought up the whole antilurker meme to begin with, not you. And there’s also what Suburban Plankton said a couple posts ago.
I agree with that, at least. So, all you silent folks, do you think Rubystreak here likes to eat people under the full moon, or does she stockpile silver bullets and wolfsbane? Let’s hear it.
[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]
I’m voting for Rubystreak.
Methinks she doth protest too much
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OK. Going into lurker mode until the final vote, since apparently the more I say, the worse it gets. When will the final vote be called? See you then.
I have to say that I find it curious that Rubystreak is not only singing a one note song, but when confronted, she doesn’t seem receptive to any new ideas. I find that, and her overly defensive tone highly suspicious. Vote Rubystreak.
It’s rather quiet around here all of a sudden. I hope that doesn’t signify a trend…
[QUOTE=dnooman]
I have to say that I find it curious that Rubystreak is not only singing a one note song, but when confronted, she doesn’t seem receptive to any new ideas. I find that, and her overly defensive tone highly suspicious. Vote Rubystreak.
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I agree with dnooman - especially with respect to Rubystreak’s insistence that we don’t have any basis for deciding who’s a werewolf and who isn’t. I think we have a fair amount of information to go on - nothing definite, certainly, but enough that we should be looking at what people are saying rather than post counts. With more villagers than werewolves, random voting benefits the werewolves; analysis is the only way we have to level the playing field between us.
It seems to me that Rubystreak would rather vote randomly than analyze what we’ve learned. Right now, I’m leaning towards lynching her.
“Yesterday,” I mentioned that I thought the late JSexton was playing the game recklessly, in a manner that would tell us less than we ought to be learning. Since his lynching, however, I’ve changed my mind - I think his throwing out names generated better discussion than we’ve been having since his death. As Suburban Plankton noted, it’s been rather quiet… In JSexton’s honor, I’ll throw out a few more suspicions.
WinstonSmith is apparently the town drunk, and he hasn’t engaged in any significant discussion of our questions. I suppose he might have climbed inside a bottle to escape from the werewolves, but it’s just as likely that he’s pretended to climb inside a bottle to escape from us.
We were looking pretty hard at Miller for a while, and that suspicion seems to have died down. I voted for Miller myself, and I’m still suspicious of him, but he’s no longer at the top of my list. Some of his posts are allaying my suspicions, but I wasn’t the only one interested in him. I’d like to hear what some of the other folks who voted for him have to say.
jsgoddess seemed pretty interested in outing the Masons after Wanderers spoke up, and she’s piqued my interest with a couple of posts since then as well - especially with her bandwagon vote to lynch moonstarssun and her back and forth with JSexton yesterday.
I’ll also note that a couple of people on my radar are accusing each other - notably Miller and Rubystreak. These are only suspicions, not certainties. In order of suspicion, I’ve got Rubystreak, WinstonSmith, jsgoddess, and (a good bit farther down the list) Miller.
[QUOTE=Suburban Plankton]
I’m voting for Rubystreak.
Methinks she doth protest too much
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I considered that myself. Although would a werewolf go through so much trouble protesting? It would draw a considerable amount of attention to one’s self. On the other hand, it could also mean that she is being competitive and trying to stay in the game to help the werewolves win, if she is indeed on their side.
[QUOTE=Rubystreak]
Going into lurker mode until the final vote, since apparently the more I say, the worse it gets. When will the final vote be called? See you then.
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So using your strategy, I should vote for you then, right?
[QUOTE=Enginerd]
jsgoddess seemed pretty interested in outing the Masons after Wanderers spoke up
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I took that as a sincere attempt to understand strategy, not a way to help “out” the above average townies. I find it hard to believe that a werewolf would come right out and ask for role calls, as that would load everyone’s FOS. Just my opinion, of course. However, she does seem a bit blood-thirsty, no?
I can see why he is suspicious to some people, but for now I’m sticking to my guns and keeping him on my safe list.
I’ll wait until later to cast my official vote.
[QUOTE=hocow]
I considered that myself. Although would a werewolf go through so much trouble protesting? It would draw a considerable amount of attention to one’s self. On the other hand, it could also mean that she is being competitive and trying to stay in the game to help the werewolves win, if she is indeed on their side.
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This is an interesting question. From the start, **Rubystreak **has been quick to protest (she did so quickly and early against even jsgoddess’s clearly baseless accusation in Day 1). However, she also made an effort to calm the bandwagon on that first day. Looking at it all together, she doesn’t strike me as a werewolf. So, basically, I subscribe to the first theory.
Well, I just re-read the entire thread, making notes of everything that seemed to indicate a possibility of a person’s Wolf vs. Town status. And…I don’t have a vote yet. I think I have to reread it again.
I thought I had a firm suspicion in the middle of reading the Day 2 voting, based on Suburban Plankton’s popping up now and then to announce “I’m still voting for JSexton” and then, even after unvoting him, putting up a post that he was still suspicious, but then, I still can’t conceive a reason for a wolf not to have at least a throwaway vote at the end of the day.
Other than that, the only interesting thing I noticed is that hocow got no notes on my sheet, good or bad. Come out and do something interesting hocow! Your name is lonely.
On preview: Wow, I guess hocow read my mind!
Like I said, I’ve gotta reread the thread again to see if I can come up with something, but not right now. My brain’s fried.
[QUOTE=Winston Smith]
I vote for MadThe Swine - I think he voted for me to draw attention away from his own flea-bitten self.
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What suspicion? I would hope I am so far from suspicion this shouldn’t even be an issue. If you are just going to throw out a vote because someone voted for you it seems like a wasted vote(and even more suspicious) if you really aren’t a wolf you would make your vote more meaningful..like voting for Rubystreak …but you don’t wanna do that do you?.
I am very confident in my vote for Wereston Smith tho I really wouldn’t mind seeing Rubystreak swinging either.
[QUOTE=Kat]
Well, I just re-read the entire thread, making notes of everything that seemed to indicate a possibility of a person’s Wolf vs. Town status.
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Can you share your notes?
[QUOTE=hocow]
I considered that myself. Although would a werewolf go through so much trouble protesting? It would draw a considerable amount of attention to one’s self.
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I’m guessing her reaction was more reflexive than anything else. Now she’s gone silent, hoping that it’s not too late to avoid further scrutiny.
[QUOTE=MadTheSwine]
Can you share your notes?
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Well, not sure they’re all that much help, but here you go.