Themselves.
What, you don’t feel comfortable unless you’re up against some schmuck in a Hallowe’en costume?
It’s a pretty well known teaching, and an essential article of the Catholic faith. And it was Jesus, specifically, not the Father.
They still think nonbelievers who have heard of it but think it’s BS are going to go to hell, though, right?
Valete,
Vox Imperatoris
ETA: I didn’t see FriarTed’s post there.
I can agree with you not to ask her questions. But please do ask. As a Christian I can not understand her answer? If you can not understaand her answer it means you were not clearly answered, or at this tie have not got a undersstanding of what was said. After all none of us were born a Christian.
Apparently full knowledge is not required. The serpent did not give Eve full disclosure, but did not lie to Eve (but told a partial truth to deceive).
What if John 3:16 doesn’t say what you posted.
“For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.”
– John 3:16 (KJV)
It says nothing about Jesus being sacrified for the sins of man. It says those who believe in him, or in other words, those who believe in what He says, His teachings, then they will have have everlasting life. They, by heeded His teachings will know they are eternal.
People have to do a lot of creative assuming to believe it means something else, I think.
Not necessarily. I’m sure you can find some very conservative or capital-T Traditionalists who believe this, but generally it’s not Church teaching.
“Invincible ignorance” covers a lot of ground. Someone may have been so conditioned by his or her upbringing and culture that acceptance of the truth of the Catholic faith may be impossible. Not necessarily that person’s fault.
Does he bring a gift? Perhaps some dough for wafers
that would instantly bake upon his entrance?
“Hi, devil, I need to bake. Please enjoy this Merlot.” 
Seriously, for the OP, I have always gotten the impression
that those who claim to be saved consider themselves
one rung up the heaven ladder than those who were
only baptized as an infant and now mumble their
way through “Hallelujiah” every Sunday.
Consider those who only took one drivers exam, aka
most humans. The saved ones are the geeks that
volunteered to take it over on purpose.
“Yes, I really don’t have faith in turn signals anymore.
May I read the manual again?”
I think to say “or in other words” is a wee bit of creative assuming on your part, too, there. It simply says believes in - it does not qualify the nature of that belief. To assume that it specifically means what he says and teaches is about as much of a leap than it is to assume “gave” refers to the later sacrifice, in my book. Really, when taking someone to task for assuming beyond the text, the words “or in other words” really shouldn’t come into play at all if you don’t want to seem hypocritical.
The bible does not indicate an eternal soul
There is no biblical basis for this reasoning.
The problem in your reasoning is that the argument for Christ’s life as a sacrifice can be found directly in more than one place in the NT.
This is not true. He directly lied to Eve.
Okay, here’s where my new, hippie theology separates from my old, RC theology. Or my inherent Upper Midwest sensibility coincides with RC theology. Or they all diverge from fundamentalist Christianity: I cannot STAND the fundamentalist assumption that they are going to Heaven.
#1 My hippie interpretation of Evangelical Lutheranism: All God’s chilluns is goin’ to Heaven because, by dying for our sins, JC bore the brunt and we’re human and, therefore, imperfect, blahblahblah.
#2 What I got from the nuns when I was a kid: It is totally wrong to assume ANYBODY is going to Heaven, at least right away, because we ALL need to be purged (thus Purgatory) of the many sins our imperfect selves committed (remember: they can be sins of both commission OR omission).
#3 As an Upper Midwesterner: It is presumptuous to believe I, or anybody, am going to Heaven and tacky to brag about it. I may secretly suspect my neighbors might not, but I can NEVER admit the obvious, I am and they ain’t, in public. However, “in private” can be flexible.
Normally, the nuns have it for me, but if the song is catchy enough, I’ll sing along.
ETA: That may not have been entirely coherent. I am still stunned that kanicbird believes in multiple gods.
No, she doesn’t. Most sects of Christianity do not teach that there can be “heaven on earth”, although some Buddhists do. She believes (probably) that she is “elected” (the proper term—picked out) to be in Heaven by God.
Valete,
Vox Imperatoris
A couple of interesting and seldom mentioned passages.
the apostles found some mushrooms on the way to Corinth.
In one of the Psalms it is quoted: Even if I go into Hell you are there.
According to the Nicene Creed it says Jesus went into hell he decended before he resurrected.