The point is that there are the old-school conservatives who support conservative positions, and the new school “conservatives” who base their entire position around the things they oppose, with no discernible concern for the babies they are throwing out with the bathwater. There are literally people out there who only want to see their enemies crushed, and who think that by supporting Trump that’s going to happen. And these are the people who by all appearances have overwhelmed and taken over both the republican party and the conservative label.
I’m pretty sure that actually describes the bulk of his supporters, actually. The remainder being divided between persons who are willing to overlook anything to accomplish their self-enriching agendas, and those who are quite literally agents for an enemy state.
I never voted for him and never would. He’s not fit to hold office. I wouldn’t want him taking my order at a drive thru window let alone run my country.
Again, you’re conflating “Trumpist” and “conservative”. If you’re unable to separate the two there’s no real way to have a meaningful discussion.
I won’t do that because I don’t take orders from you and I’m not playing your childish games.
With that being said, I didn’t vote for Trump to begin with.
But I still think your “prove this or that” is utter bullshit.
So let me get this straight: We’ve gone from comparing Republicans to Nazis (Godwinization, but that’s old stuff) to watering down what the Nazis did, in the name of making Republicans look bad?
Seriously, consider your implications. You’re saying that 12 million dead (including 6 million Jews,) and the tens of other millions who died in Eastern Europe, due to Nazism, are ***lesser *** atrocities than…the Republican Party in America today.
As for this thread, I’ve always been fond of insects. I used to keep a pet praying mantis. Problem is, she didn’t seem to have a sense of when to stop eating. We would feed her bug after bug after bug and eventually she gorged herself to the point where we worried.
So I’m chill with half of our nation being insects.
The nazis were never a credible threat to the survival of the human race, nor were they ever a credible threat to the American part of western civilization. The republicans can be legitimately seen a threatening the global climate (and through it, worldwide food supplies), and they’re a lot closer to home than the nazis were, if your home happens to be in America.
Now, if you’re in western Europe, the notion that the republican party is a bigger threat to western civilization is laughable.
There is a very long distance between ‘don’t call people vermin’ and “don’t dare say a single bad thing about them”.
It’s entirely possible to criticize a political position up, down, and sideways without saying that the people who hold it aren’t human.
Such as?
Very good line.
Please do that.
This is true; but part of the problem is that the Trumpists have been conflating “Trumpist” and “conservative”, and having considerable success at presenting them as synonymous. I hope that you’re objecting to them doing so at least as much as you’re objecting to liberals doing so (maybe you have been, I don’t know.)
– Bone, I think you’re lumping a whole lot of people in together when only a handful of them agreed with the original sentiment; and others may well have thought it had already been jumped on, and they didn’t have to specifically do so also.
Now those who’ve had anything to do with planning, implementing, or enabling what they’ve been doing to children at the border, I can only hope they’re convicted of hundreds of counts of child abuse and neglect, and spend the rest of their lives imprisoned at Gitmo.
Why are we worrying about Bone’s shitlist, again? All he said was that it said more about them than it did about the insectoid republicans. And what it specidifically says is that Bone was none too discerning about who he put on the list.
If you are referring to the “Seriously, what conservative values aren’t based off of bigotry?” thread, I think the backlash was because the very phrasing of the OP title showed that it wasn’t meant as a genuine level-playing field question, but rather, as an inflammatory post that demanded responses and put readers on the defensive to begin with. It was accusatory by its very nature and wording.
If it had been phrased as,** “What are and aren’t conservative values?”** I think it would have generated a much more levelheaded and cooler discussion.