What do babies actually need?

So, I’m going to have a baby in a couple of months - it’s our first, and neither my husband or I have much/any experience with babies.

And I’m feeling a little overwhelmed by all the stuff that shops seem keen to sell us - do babies really need all of this? I’m assuming not, but because of our lack of baby knowledge, we’re finding it a bit hard to judge what is necessary, what’s useful, and what’s just a nice-to-have, or actually pointless.

Can you help? What did you find essential when you had a baby? (Please do feel free to suggest basics - finding out we desperately need something the day we come home from the hospital will not be ideal! For the purposes of this thread, nothing is too basic.) We’re in Belgium, but I assume babies and the things they need are pretty much the same the world over…

Thank you very much for any help you can give us!

Aw, you guys. First time parents are adorable. Listen, new babies are not that hard. Keep them warm, hold them as much as you can, feed one end and clean the other (don’t mix those up, that’s important). They can sleep anywhere they can’t roll off…my oldest did fine in a dresser drawer on the floor for his first three months. Also, if you plan to take the baby anywhere in a car, you must have a new cars seat, properly installed. Various brands of slings and strollers are also good for going out. Use your common sense and respond to your baby. You’ll do fine.

Steer clear of gadgets in general, seriously, be very wary of them. In our experience they add nothing other than complication and expense.
Save your cash for what really matters, the very best thing we got was an integrated pram/buggy/carseat of good quality that saw us through two kids and 4 years of use with barely a scratch and was EASY TO MANOUVRE. It is incredible how many expensive systems end up being a pain to move about…which is a bit of a major failing for a mobile device!

(ours was a Inglesina system, about £350 in total and we ended up getting £100 for it on ebay when we’d done with it)

To the first and second approximation, babies really need only a contented and non-anxious mother who is (relatively) alert. It is the best to concentrate on your well-being and the baby will be OK.

Beg, steal or procure any possible help with house management for being able to get as much rest as possible.

Be graceful to given advice related to baby care, but indifferent to it. Your best guide is your own intuition. Don’t worry, nature provided enough of it.

Best of luck !

This is what the Finnish government issue to all mothers with new babies. And a link to Wikipedia about it, too. Much of it doesn’t seem to be immediately necessary in the short term.

I believe there’s at least one company selling similar packs on line.
Best of luck!

They don’t need bassinets. Ours went straight into a crib, and did fine. Most people I know use the bassinet to keep the baby in the parents bedroom when he’s still eating every two hours, but you can put the crib there, and move it later, of just use a baby monitor, and put him in his own room from the beginning.

Take all offers of used clothing. They outgrow the newborn stuff really fast, that they don’t get much wear out of it, and people will be really grateful to get barely used stuff off their hands.

You don’t need special diaper pails UNLESS you have a dog or a toddler. Then, it’s really your call, because only you know your dog or your toddler well enough.

You don’t need a special diaper bag that costs a lot of money and is called “diaper bag,” or “baby needs bag,” and has lots of pockets labeled “For bottles,” “for wipes,” “for used diapers”; just get a cheap but roomy backpack, and customize it as you go along and learn what your personal needs are. They’ll be changing anyway. Just make sure you have at least two changes of clothing, a blanket for public restroom diaper changes, and several diapers in it. If dad will be taking baby out alone, have room for a bottle, and if you are not breastfeeding, whatever formula you use, and some water that the baby is used too, just because you can’t be sure of the water supply you might encounter. You could find yourself at a house that is on well water, for example.

I’ll stop there. I could go on, because I got so much extraneous advice, but I don’t want to do the same thing.

As mother of four I respectfully beg to differ that new babies are not that hard. nicole, do not feel bad if you find it hard!

However, I do agree that they don’t need much stuff.
Personally I would get :
a crib (even if you do co-sleeping you need a place where you can put the baby down where they can’t get hurt…milestones like rolling and sitting and pulling to a stand can creep up on a person)

a carseat/stroller combination

a baby sling or other baby wearing thing

lots of diapers, a few in newborn size, more in size one and baby wipes

lots of small thin flannel baby blankets, mostly to use as burpcloths, most babies spit up a lot, some throw up copiously (while still being perfectly healthy)

lots of premade meals frozen

Get a thermometer, some liquid baby paracetamol, and a syringe to administer it. It will be 3 am on a public holiday when you discover that you need it, and you will be soooo glad you have it to hand rather than spending hours trying to find a pharmacy that is open.

Find out if you have a good second hand baby stuff place nearby. Babies don’t know the stuff is pre-used and will throw up on it/grow out of it, regardless.

Our daughter was a 30-weeker, so we hadn’t bought a lot of stuff like a crib for which there was a long lead time in the shops, so she after she came home slept in a washing basket with a pillow as a mattress till the stuff arrived.

Buy the best pram you can get as you will use the pram every day for the next few years. Make sure you can open and shut it with one hand, 'cos the other will be holding the baby. And that it fits in your car boot.

And good lord, but is Finland impressive!

An important note: as a first-time parent, there is a natural tendancy to think the kid will be an infant forever, and so to stock up on all sorts of expensive infant-stuff.

Kids grow real fast. That expensive stuff will soon be useless. Space your money out for stuff for the kid at various ages.

There is a reason there is a huge trade in used baby stuff …

The two things that tickled me:

which is an important reminder that small babies are much like cats and can actually sleep anywhere, and

which is just awesomely non-American.

Along those lines, they grow real fast but you also have lots of time to decide what’s needed after they’re born. Yeah, you need to have somewhere for them to sleep right away, but they’re not going to be doing much more than sleeping, eating, and pooping for a while. One day you might think that it’d be really nice to have some sort of contraption in the kitchen you can sit the kid up in while you make dinner. You can address that need then. But it’s really hard and unnecessary to know what would or wouldn’t be useful for you and your baby ahead of time.

We were so clueless with our first one. We spent all this time before the due date putting together things like highchairs that we wouldn’t need for months and we didn’t even have the bottle sterilizer unboxed when we brought the baby home.

Speaking of which, we didn’t use the bottle sterilizer at all with the second one.

You’ll do great. Nap when the baby naps, please, even if there are some dirty dishes in the sink and a full laundry hamper.

Only one sprout in our household, but I like this list. The only thing I’d add, as an option, is some kind of used diaper odor containment system. And a bunch of used baby clothes for everyday wear (unless you’re childless orphans with no friends who hate your neighbors, you will have plenty of fancy new baby clothes).

Slightly longer-term, and very optional, the other thing that turned out to be way more useful for us than I anticipated was a jogging stroller. Get exercise AND give your partner a break, what a concept! You won’t be putting the sprout in there until they can sit up comfortably, so no hurry on that one, if applicable to your family.

And remember, almost nobody had enough babies to actually use up most of these things, so you can always find them used. There are lots of stores specifically selling used baby stuff, or go on whatever the Belgium equivalent of Craigslist is.

Things you must have ahead of time?

  1. A car seat to drive it home in
  2. A six-pack of those ready-to-feed bottles of formula. Even if you intend to exclusively breast feed. ESPECIALLY if you intend to exclusively breast feed. Because there is no worse feeling in the world than listening to your starving newborn scream at 3am, and having no food to give it. The feeling will haunt you to the end of your days. Don’t risk feeling it: have formula on hand.

Clothes, blankets, and diapering stuff comes in handy obviously :slight_smile: but the hospital will send you home with enough to be getting on with. Likewise, any old place to sleep will do at first. My daughter spent her first few nights in a large cardboard box that a pair of knee-high boots had come in (lined with blankets).

As had been mentioned in the thread: don’t fall for gadgets. A baby monitor is fine, you don’t need any camera or other special heartbeat/respiratory stuff. It is a phase you must pass. The baby will sleep and wake up just fine without you hovering over it.

Get a baby sling ! It’s for those cases that you have done everything else: diaper, bath, milk and still the baby is uncomfortable. Put it in the sling and carry on with your daily stuff. The baby will be nice and warm, close to and being rocked by mummy or daddy. Works great at night too.

Be sure to check what you can get from your health fund; we got a gift certificate of €500.

On the formula thing : if you’re breastfeeding, be sure to slip in the odd bottle of mothersmilk regularly, say weekly. Well, not really from the beginning, but after a few months. That way it’ll grow used to the thing when you want to switch over.

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The above two things work like magic. Keep them in the same gym bag that you carry the diapers in.

Buy a couple packages of cloth diapers. Regardless of what you use to wrap your baby’s butt in, cloth diapers are great for all sorts of baby-related uses: burp cloths, wiping faces, laying down when changing, etc. It’s really just sort of like a towel or dish cloth but thicker in the center. Anyway, buy 'em 'cause you’ll use 'em.

Also, we were given a “baby medicine” kit as a gift by another couple who swore by it for their baby. Contains a little bottle of infant acetaminophen, gripe water, gas drops, blunt medicine syringes, those squeezy nose cleaner things, etc. When it’s 2am and you wish you had gas drops, it’s a godsend to have it all sitting on the dresser in one handy kit. It’s only $10-$15 for the kit and money well spent.

Ours is 9 months old, and I read and planned a lot, didn’t get a bunch of the stuff they think you need (mostly happily), and this is my list:

Someplace for it to sleep (crib, in bed with you, crib for later and Pack and Play in your bedroom for now, crib for later and bassinet for now, etc.) We bought a crib, the cheapest one you can get pretty much - the cheap IKEA one - remember that cribs, like a few other things, are regulated and all equally safe. It is not recommended to get a used one because these things get recalled all the time and there are styles which are no longer considered safe. Seriously. $70 bucks at IKEA. Mattress. Sheets for it. Done. We did keep him in our room for a few months in the bassinet attachment of a pack and play. He actually slept better in the crib though. Remember that just because they sell you something doesn’t mean it’s safe - many crib bedding sets come with bumpers which are not recommended or a quilt which you should never put in the crib, so it’s… just for decoration?

Some way for it to ride in a car. Some people use an infant-capable convertible seat from the beginning and wear the baby when out. I considered that but went with the infant seat you can take out anyway, and was glad I did until he got really heavy. It isn’t just a way to carry the baby, it’s also, for example, his own semi-private germ-free space in a restaurant. This is the other thing you must buy new unless, like, your sister has a seat to give you that you know has never been in any kind of wreck and has not expired.

Your car seat may inform your stroller selection. Newborns can’t do the umbrella stroller thing. The best stroller for you depends on your lifestyle. The people at lucieslist.com do a really good job breaking down the pros and cons of all the models and styles (and on everything else your baby needs, too.)

Something to keep it from shitting on you. We use cloth diapers. Not for everybody, not as hard as you’d think. If you get cloth, get real quality cloth or you won’t be using it for long. Disposable is of course the other option; don’t go crazy and overbuy newborn size because some babies never wear them (and some babies stay in them for awhile). They will take unopened boxes back in exchange for the next size up. You also need some sort of wipe arrangement. You need some place to put the diapers when they’ve been used - some people swear by the diaper genie, some people hate the expensive refills. One way or the other you’re going to have a bucket of human feces in your house, so plan a workflow about that. (We have a kitchen trash can with the flippy lid and a washable liner in it and we do diaper laundry a few days a week. Dog has never bothered it, thankfully.)

Something to carry all the things it needs around with it. You can use your old backpack if you like. We do have a dedicated diaper bag (it’s a Skip Hop that I got an incredibly good deal on). Don’t overpack this thing unless you are climbing Everest with the baby.

I HIGHLY recommend also packing a Super Emergency Last Resort bag in your trunk. Put that formula sample you got in it, a bottle, a few diapers (even a real cloth diaper or two, not that Gerber crap, this is for real emergencies), a change of clothes for the baby and for you, anything you can imagine being desperate for. This is for if you forget your diaper bag, or your car breaks down, or if your baby shits out of all the clothes you brought. We’ve only needed ours once but if we hadn’t had it we wouldn’t have had anything to feed him an hour from home.

Some way to bathe it. In a pinch you could always put a towel in a sink, but obviously a tub is way easier. We registered for a nicer little sink tub but the baby came early so my mom ran out and got us one of these little guys. All you need. Fit perfectly in our kitchen sink until he got too big for that and then worked fine in the bathtub. Recently he outgrew that so we put him in a laundry basket. You also need some baby shampoo, something to moisturize it with (coconut oil, baby lotion, whatev) and I do think baby towels and washcloths are worth it although not everyone uses them.

You want to be prepared for when it gets sick. Diaper rash cream (if you use cloth you have to get cloth-safe creams, FYI), infant Tylenol and ibuprofin, a snot sucker (the Nosefrida is well reviewed - ours has never really been very snotty so it hasn’t so much come up), rectal thermometer. Aquaphor is great for weird bizarre newborn skin things. And you need nail clippers unless you’re my mother who thinks everybody should bite off their baby’s nails. Weird, Mom.

It has to wear some sort of clothes. Let people buy them for you and go to Goodwill. Seriously. New baby clothes are for suckers. Get a variety of sizes.

It’s going to ooze fluids. You need a lot of receiving blankets, especially if you get a spitter.

Most babies sleep better swaddled. You can do this in a blanket, especially one of those nice Aden & Anais ones (which are also great sunshades) but we liked the velcro swaddler things.

You need some way to feed it. If you plan to do this with your boobs, you will probably need some nipple cream, nursing bras, etc. I liked the Boppy and the Brest Friend, a lot of people don’t. Common shower gift though. You’ll probably need a breast pump also unless you plan on never being away from the baby or never having anybody else feed it, ever. (Also bottles.) If you plan to do this with Science, you’ll need bottles again, formula (unless your baby has special needs get the cheapest formula you can get as long as it doesn’t come from a Chinese melamine plant, that stuff is regulated), a bottle brush. We got a cheap little formula mixing pitcher that we love love love, it really does make life easier. You do not need expensive bottles. You can get them if you like them, but we use the Evenflo glass ones and they’re like 3 for $9. (We got the glass not because of BPA but because plastic just doesn’t seem clean in the dishwasher to me.) You do not need to sterilize them. You wouldn’t sterilize your boobs, would you? No. You would not.

A baby carrier is helpful. Try the Infantino Mei Tai once it’s a little bigger, it’s really cheap and you can decide whether you like the different kinds of carriers. The Moby Wrap is good for newborns. Don’t get one of those Bjorn-ish things where their legs dangle because a babywearer will berate you in public.

It is also EXTREMELY helpful to have a place to put the baby down in every room you spend a lot of time in. We were given a Rock and Play, which is a nice thing to have, but we ended up dragging it back and forth. Then we got a cheap little bouncer to put in the other room which was a godsend. It was also the only thing that would make him stop crying when he was really gassy as a newborn.

That’s pretty much all I can think of that I’d consider the “basic kit”. You do not need a wipe warmer. (Imagine what happens when your baby gets used to warm wipes and you have to change him somewhere else!) You do not need a swing, although many babies sleep well in them. You definitely do not need a goddamned Moses basket that matches your nursery, although of course if you want to buy one there is certainly nothing wrong with it if it makes you happy. Note that this list is tuned to people living the basic American car-based lifestyle and people buying things regulated by the US government; some things might be different in other places.

ETA - when you register at stores they give you gift bags. This is a great way to score, say, a can of formula even if you aren’t planning on using it, and you’ll have it for emergencies. We also said we weren’t using pacifiers, but were eventually very glad that we had four or five brands to pick from in our “drawer of crap they gave us”.

You are all fabulous - thank you so much!

We’ve got a baby carrier and a pram/car seat (though we don’t have a car, but apparently a car seat is still required for taxis etc, so we have one now!) and my boss has given us the moses basket she used for her kids, so the baby will have somewhere to sleep when we get home. So that’s something. The world of cribs/cots/beds has left me deeply confused - how long does a crib last? Can I skip a crib and go straight to a cot when the baby is too big for the moses basket? The internet tells me the baby needs to sleep in our room for the first 6 months - will I need a crib/cot/whatever before then? (See? This is how utterly clueless I am. It’s slightly terrifying, really.)

We bought some box of stuff that promised to be everything we needed in terms of steriliser/bottles/dummies/whatever else is in there, so that’s hopefully all we need to start with at least! I’m hoping to breastfeed, but will definitely look into getting some ready-to-feed bottles of formula just in case - I didn’t know they made those, they sound perfect.

I hadn’t even thought about baby medicine - I’ll go to the pharmacy sometime soon and see what they sell, and I should look at getting some sort of first aid kit, too. Gah. I feel so, so not ready for this!

And we have a bunch of those muslin cloths, because the internet told me they would be useful, and they were cheap, so I figured I’d get some and if they weren’t, no harm done! There’s a second-hand sale thing here in a month or so, so we’re planning to get baby clothes at that - my mother’s been busy buying clothes back in the UK, too, so the baby should be well-served for clothes for the first few months! Thanks for reminding me to buy clothes of various sizes, too, not just for teeny babies - I’m having some trouble thinking past the immediate OMG-a-baby stage, but of course it’s not going to stay tiny for ever!

Find out which rummage sales are the best. Way cheaper than new clothing, and probably cheaper than consignment shops. New clothing is expensive, and they don’t wear anything long enough to wear it out!

If there aren’t any rummage sales in your area, start hitting the garage sales.