What do babies actually need?

I think a friend of mine has a baby bath she doesn’t need any more, so we’ll take that off her hands. (I hadn’t really thought about bathing babies, but the sinks in this house are weird, so a bath of some sort is clearly going to be necessary!)

Packing an emergency bag is a great idea - thanks Zsofia! As for nappies, we don’t have a dog or another kid around, so at least no one’s likely to be emptying dirty nappies everywhere around the flat. Do we need a separate bin? Can we just use like giant ziplock bags to put crappy nappies in, to stop them smelling in between bin collection days? (I’ve never changed a nappy, so this might be a really, really stupid idea… Be kind when pointing this out, if so!)

Your ziplock bag idea would work fine. Personally we kept small foot operated bins near the two changing areas for convenience and reused plastic grocery bags in them.

-newborn diapers just aren’t that smelly
-You can never get completely rid of the ‘baby lives here’ smell even with the fancy containment systems.

Some people swear by the diaper containment systems like diaper Genie. We had one that broke quickly and we found it more annoying than anything else.

Okay, you are obviously British (nappies, cot, etc) but where are you living now? That probably determines what’s in your local stores.

The way the crib thing works in the cribs I have seen for sale in the US - there’s the crib, which usually has two height levels for the mattress (you start out with the mattress higher so it’s easier on your back and then when you start to worry that the baby can pull up you drop it down and then your back hurts.) Most cribs can turn into a toddler bed (this may require buying an extra kit or something.) The way this works with the crib I got ($70 at IKEA, remember) is that one side of the crib comes off and is replaced structurally with a wooden bar. Then the kid can get in and out of the bed at will. Some cribs also can come with hardware that makes them into a twin sized bed eventually, for which you’d need a new mattress. I’m figuring when he outgrows the toddler bed stage we’ll go back to IKEA and let him pick out his own “big boy bed” with a twin mattress.

You will want your baby contained in a crib until they start physically climbing out of it. Before that, they could fall out, or worse, they could liberate themselves and bother you in the middle of the night. Frankly my original plan was just to flip the crib over and put a brick on it but evidently that looks bad or something.

Now, some people don’t want the baby sleeping all by itself in a nursery at night, so they have a newborn sleeping arrangement. This can be a Moses basket (cute but they outgrow them fast), which evidently you’ve got, so you’re good. Some people get a bassinet. Some people do like we did and get a Pack and Play, which will be useful when the baby gets older or if you need to take it traveling, and use this little bassinet attachment which brings the baby up higher for your back. That would have been extra useful if Farticus could have breast fed, but instead it meant we woke up to every little fart he made while when he actually needed to get up his father fed him and I went and attached myself to the Breast Pump of Doom at 4 AM. But one plus to having him in your room if you are breastfeeding is that you don’t have to wake up quite as “far” and can drag the baby to the boob in a fugue state. Some people of course just cosleep - look up the safety rules for that if you want to do that, but you’ll still want some safe place to put the baby down every so often.

Sure, you could use Ziploc bags, although that would start getting expensive. Plenty of people just use plastic grocery bags and tie them down tight. You can try that and see if the smell bothers you or not.

You do want to put either some Ziplocs or some wet bags or something in that diaper bag though. Even if you’re not using cloth diapers, sometimes you end up with a mess you can’t leave somewhere.

Just in case there’s more of a language difference than I think,this is the kind of crib I am talking about. As seen it is on the higher mattress setting; the lower setting is at the bottom of the bar part. There’s not a picture of how it looks as a toddler bed but it’s just one of the long sides that comes off so it looks kind of like a daybed.

ETA - mattresses are sold separately, as are sheets. Get at least two sheets. You can, if you’re feeling fancy, also get a couple of mattress protectors and layer them like mattress, protector, sheet, protector, sheet, so if there’s a real 3 AM explosion you can just take off the two top layers and have a clean sheet. We don’t do that because we haven’t really needed to - mostly our problems were spit-up related, and cribs are big enough that if you’re us and don’t care, you can just move the baby to a cleaner spot until later.

Sounds like you are planning on disposables. Assuming that US and Belgium ones are the same, they attach with built tape tabs. When you take the diaper off, you can generally fold it up so that all the fun stuff is inside, and tape it closed again.

Some smell might escape, but very little, really (and my memory is that baby poop isn’t really that unpleasant while they are still on milk/formula anyway).

You might want a separate bin just from the “ooh, poop” factor - but you’ll probably get over that pretty quickly anyway. You will end up with poop all over the place at some point.

Get some flat (not pre-folded) cloth diapers. These are good. They’re not for using as diapers (though you could do that, if you wanted to), but as spit-up cloths. They make the best spit-up cloths. They are more absorbent than spit-up cloths made from old T-shirts or the like. I became a bit of an expert on spit up cloths in the first six months of Lil’ Neville’s life. I never left the house without one. Big spit-up cloths are better than small ones.

Get some clothes for you that won’t show dried spit-up. Tie dye shirts are good for this. I lived in tie dye for the first six months with Lil’ Neville. This way, you only have to change your shirt if you get a lot of spit-up on it, not if you just get a little. Dry clean only clothes are for people without babies, or for when you’re going out without the baby. When you go out with the baby, always take along a change of clothes for you and for the baby. Take more than one extra set of clothes for the baby, if you can.

Do they have gallon sized Ziploc bags (or something similar) in Belgium? If they do, always carry some with you when you go out. These are for poopy nappies or clothes (poop WILL get out of the nappy and onto the baby’s clothes at least once), clothes (yours or the baby’s) with spit-up on them, leaky bottles, or miscellaneous messy stuff.

You can bathe a baby in the bathtub. You can use a baby tub for this, or you can get in the tub with the baby. Babies like this, especially if you are breastfeeding and willing to nurse in the tub. Lil’ Neville LOVED nursing in the bath. Getting in the bath with the baby might be easier on your back, if you’ve got any problems in that area and don’t have sinks suitable for a baby bath.

Get some good nursing bras, and some pads for inside them in case you leak milk. I never really bothered with nursing tops, except for dresses with nursing tops. I wore T-shirts, untucked, and just lifted up my shirt when I needed to.

In general, don’t stock up on anything for the baby (or on nursing pads) until you figure out what works for you and your baby. Don’t buy a huge quantity of nappies before the baby is born. You don’t know what size the baby will be (even with ultrasound, this is highly uncertain). Some brands of nappies will probably work better for your baby than others will. Same is true of nursing pads for you. Don’t stock up until you figure out what actually works for you and your baby.

Don’t buy a lot of baby clothes before the baby is born. You don’t know what size he or she will be. Don’t buy expensive baby clothes- you DO know he or she will poop in them, right?

Nappies and baby clothes here are usually sized by weight and/or age. (I don’t know how they do things in Europe) These ranges are suggestions. Babies do come in different shapes, so your baby might be within the weight range for a particular size of nappies or clothes but they still won’t fit right. If you’re having a lot of nappy blowouts, try a bigger size or a different brand.

Find a consignment store. You can waste a lot of money on new clothes for the baby otherwise. Yard sales have the disadvantage of only being held at particular times, and going out is going to require a lot more planning and luck after the baby comes than it did before. You won’t want to wake your baby up from a nap to take them out unless you absolutely have to. A store with longer hours might be better. You should definitely get any special-occasion clothes at a consignment store. Kids wear these a few times and then outgrow them, so there are lots of them with very little wear available.

We got some swaddle blankets. We’re not any good at swaddling with a plain blanket and having it stay closed, so we got swaddle blankets with Velcro closures instead.

How do you feel about pacifiers/dummies? If you’re OK with these, don’t stock up on them until you know what kind your baby likes. They do have definite preferences.

Thank you - that’s really helpful. We actually have an IKEA not so far from here (we’re in Belgium now, not the UK), so I think we’ll go and have a look and see if they sell that type of bed. There’s no minimum age for using beds like that, right? (The woman who sold us the pram at the shop helpfully pointed out that it was good for newborns, which is good because it hadn’t occurred to me that it might not be…)

And thanks Folacin - if nappies don’t smell that much, I’m happy with normal bin bags! I just worried about the house smelling of crap all the time… We’re planning to at least start with disposable nappies. I figure there will be enough to adjust to that the convenience will be a help, and I figure we can always look at cloth nappies later on, once we’re a bit less shell-shocked.

ETA: Thanks Anne Neville - your post snuck in while I was writing! I’m good with second-hand clothes; I just need to find out what second-hand clothes shops exist here in Belgium. (We didn’t move here very long ago, so I’m still trying to find equivalents for some things - charity shops is one of those things!) For the nappies, I think the hospital give us nappies while we’re there, which should help us work out what size we need, at which point my husband can go shopping before they release us back into the wild - you stay in hospital for several days here, normally. And I guess I’m in favour of dummies? (What’s the downside to dummies? Should I not be in favour of them?) But it’s good to know there are different types and this matters!

And don’t forget that you will still be able to buy things AFTER the baby comes. Don’t panic about forgetting something. You can always go get it later if you really need it.

There’s no minimum age for cribs. There IS a minimum age for some things, like a lot of strollers. Some strollers you can use with a newborn (typically the ones that can be adjusted to lie flat or almost flat). Jogging strollers you can’t use until after 6 months because they have those floppy heads. Umbrella strollers and the more upright kind you can’t use for a while because of their little airways and those big floppy heads also.

The baby needs whatever … but the one thing I needed was a microfiber couch. Best investment ever. (Spills, spit up, mysterious bodily fluids will wipe right up.)

Congratulations!

Some people worry about breastfed babies getting nipple confusion from dummies, and not being able to nurse as well. Lil’ Neville did fine.

Some people think they’re lazy parenting. These people should be slapped upside the head with a poopy nappy.

There is some research showing that using a dummy is associated with a lower risk of SIDS.

Some prams are not suitable for babies under about 6 months. The problem is, babies that young can’t hold their heads up. They need a pram that can recline far enough that their heads aren’t drooping onto their chests. Lightweight folding strollers sold here in the US often don’t recline, so they aren’t suitable for very young babies. This isn’t a problem with cots. Newborns can sleep in the kind of IKEA cot that Zsofia linked.

There is research showing a lower risk of SIDS if your baby shares a room (not necessarily a bed) with a parent for the first few months. This will also make nighttime breastfeeding easier. If you have room in your bedroom, you could certainly set up a full-size cot in there. There are also Moses baskets, bassinets, and co-sleepers that attach to the side of your bed like a sidecar. Baskets, bassinets, and co-sleepers will have a smaller size and weight limit than a cot, and a co-sleeper isn’t really suitable once the baby can push up into a crawling position (they could fall out).

You don’t want any blankets, pillows, bumpers, or stuffed animals in the cot with your baby until they’re a year old. They can get these over their faces and suffocate. Dress the baby warmly enough, swaddle it securely, or use a swaddle blanket. Dressing a baby too warmly is a risk for SIDS, though. If the baby sleeps in your bed, you need to make sure the baby can’t suffocate on your pillows or blankets.

The baby should sleep on his or her back, not side or stomach. Once they’re able to roll over, they can sleep however they end up. Don’t sleep with a baby on a couch- they can suffocate.

A waterproof mattress protector for your bed would be a good idea. Your water might break while you’re in bed (mine did). After the baby is born, you’ll be having something like a very heavy period for a while (even if you have a C section). If you’re ever going to nurse the baby in your bed, a mattress protector will be useful, too. Have extra sheets on hand for your bed.

Get lots of cheap towels. Wherever the broke college students buy towels is a good place to get them (here, that’s Target or Wal-Mart, not sure where it would be in Belgium). You could get them at a charity shop if you wanted. You want towels that you won’t care too much if they get ruined, and that you can throw in the wash. And you want lots of them, available at a moment’s notice.

You will probably want some baby flannels. They’re smaller and thinner than regular flannels. They sell hooded towels for babies. You might want some of these, though they’re really more useful for toddlers who like to run around after their baths.

You will want some baby wash. I like Johnson’s head-to-toe baby wash.

Get a diaper changing pad, or you can use cheap towels for this. It should be something that either won’t absorb poop or pee, or that you don’t care if it gets ruined by poop or pee. A portable diaper changing pad, or some cheap towels that you carry in the diaper bag, is also good.

I never used special baby detergent. Mr. Neville is allergic to a lot of perfumes in detergents, so we always use Tide Free. We have never had a problem using it with the baby clothes.

Congratulations!

You need:

  • more nappies than you think. No, more than that. Especially if you’re breastfeeding, you’ll go through around 8 a day.

  • more onesies than you think. One end or the other will explode on a semi-regular basis.

  • a sling or carrier. When the baby’s tiny, wrap slings are good.

  • a few of those one-off bottles of baby formula. As someone said upthread, this goes even if you’re breastfeeding. I was lucky and breastfeeding went fine both times, but there were times with the first one when I was worried that I didn’t have enough milk, and having those bottles in the house kept me from panicking.

Everything else is optional.

I really liked my Boppy nursing pillow. If you get one (or any other nursing pillow), get several covers for it.

Babies don’t need shoes until they are walking. Even then, they really only need them for walking outside. It’s better for their balance and for their feet for them to walk barefoot. If it’s cold, you can put socks on them, or pants or jumpsuits with foot covers. You really don’t need an expensive pair of baby shoes.

You may end up getting more than one pram. We’ve used three. We had a stroller frame that we could snap the car seat onto. We got a Baby Jogger City Mini, which is my favorite of them (I probably would skip the stroller frame if I had it to do over). It’s a three-wheeled stroller. Despite the name, it’s not actually a jogging stroller. We also have an inexpensive umbrella stroller to keep in the trunk of the car and take on plane trips.

What kind of pram you like will depend on what you’re doing with it most of the time. Bigger and more substantial wheels are useful if you’re regularly walking on uneven pavement. I like the three-wheeled kind with a single bar to hold onto better than the four-wheeled kind with two handles. I find the three-wheeled kind with the single handle steers much better, especially one-handed. If you’re often using the pram in tight spaces, you’ll want something small with a tight turning radius. If you’re regularly carrying it around on public transit, you’ll want something that is lightweight and folds easily. Especially if you’re tall, always test prams for whether they work for someone your height. I’m 5’4", so this isn’t a problem for me (they’re usually designed with moms in mind, and that’s pretty close to average height for a woman here), but Mr. Neville is 5’9" and has problems with some lightweight strollers. If you have a lot of sunny days where you are (I don’t know much about Belgian weather), you will want a pram with a canopy.

Do you know about Mumsnet Talk? It’s a UK-based site with some good discussion forums about pregnancy and parenting.

What the hell is a pram and where is my car boot? :slight_smile:

We adopted our first child, and only had three weeks from the time we met his birth mother until his due date, and he was born nearly a week early!

With such a short amount of time, we ended up getting only those things we deemed essential.

I think everyone has done a good job of listing your basic needs, and Finland’s kit is excellent! I’ll add only that when choosing clothing, select items with the fewest number of snap closures. Trying to line them all up and get them fastened at 3:30am without waking up the baby, or while the baby is squirming, is a Herculean task.

I checked with my daughter-in-law, a first time mother of a 4-month old son. She told me these are the things that have proven most essential for her:

Lots of receiving blankets. They wash well and do quadruple duty - clothing guard against spit up, something to perch baby on when changing, something to cover up any part of baby that needs covering up at that moment, and something for quick cleanups of any type.

She swears by her boppy. My grandson loves to sit in it far more than he does his swing or seat. He enjoys the full circular view of what is going on around him. And he’s quite secure in it when she has to take her eyes of him for a minute. They come with washable covers. Get several.

Hooded towels for after bath. Keeps baby warm and lets him dry off fully so he’s easier to dress.

Pacifiers.

Plenty of diapers and wipes.

A little suction bulb to clean out his nose. When he spits up, it always goes up his nose and he can’t clear it out himself.

I wish this forum had been around 40 odd years ago,I could have used and been very grateful for all this info… As was,I had to stumble and bumble through by myself (yes,lots of advice along the “Always keep the feet covered!!!” line)

Babies need their mommies to say “the heck with the housework” and take a nap.

Regards,
Shodan

If you haven’t already do sign up for (good) antenatal classes - not only do they teach you a lot of practical stuff like how to change nappies and bath babies (ours brought in a stuntbaby for this class) but you might meet some other new parents who you hit it off with, which is a great benefit.

This, I am confident I can manage. I feel this could become something of a talent of mine, in fact, sleeping instead of doing housework!

ETA:

We have signed up for antenatal classes and the lady running them is lovely - I am relying heavily on these classes to get me to the point where we won’t screw up the baby irrevocably, but I’m beginning to realise quite how much I don’t know! So I figure the more advice I can get from sane, normal people, the better… This thread has been awesome!