What do you think a housewife's responsibilities include?

Have standards changed in 10 years since this thread was created? Do zombies scream: Clleeeeeaaaannnnnn!!!.

hemi68charger since you awoken this beast…was your wife and her kid tidy and clean when you met them? Did she agree at the onset to keep your house orderly while you were away at work? I would say those are things that you should get out there at the beginning of a relationship to make sure expectations are well understood. If these sort of things were silent when you were deciding to marry, then I wish you best of luck in your continued negotiations.

I find Mr Slant disingenuous in leaving children out of his picture; for the last couple of generations, raising children has been the main reason for an able-bodied woman to quit work. (Of course, men can be the Stay At Home Parent, but Mr Slant is living in the world of “housewives.”)

The housewife ought to do most of the work to maintain the home but specific tasks should be assigned per each partner’s talents & wishes. What if He likes to cook? What if She likes to mow the lawn? If there’s a cat, anyone with a nose ought to clean the box.* etc.*

Also–does His job involve shoveling shit at the shitworks? Brain surgery? Or does he sit in a cubicle & play on the internet most of the day?

Perhaps Mr Slant needs to discuss matters with Mrs Slant. If the OP is not about him–he needs to let That Other Couple live the lives they have chosen.

ETA: Didn’t realize this was a zombie. hemi68charger is a piece of work.

The Zombie Housewives of The Dope:smiley:

I’m single. I have to do it all.

My step-son was a baby, so when we got married, he made messes, but the type in diapers and such. My wife worked when we first got married, but when my Mom took ill and she moved in with us, the day to day activities was minimal ( Mom wasn’t that far gone yet with her Dementia ). My suggested it since with Mom, came financial resources to help pay the bills. At the time, I wasn’t with my current company and not making the money I do now. Mom passed away in 2012 after I got my current job. We agreed that my wife would stay home. I didn’t mind it at all since I wanted her to be able to enjoy the things she couldn’t with her previous children when she was a single Mom ( she was married before, this is my first ). Yes, she was very tidy when we first met and makes a point to remind that of me. The other benefit of being a stay home Mom was that, once the kids were off to school, she could do whatever she wanted to ( it was up to HER to have good time management ). I wake up a 4:40am and don’t get home till 5:00pm. I’m not saying being a housewife is easy, but when someone has a monthly schedule, they can get a lot done. She has the ability to hang out with friends during the day ( I don’t ), go places for her hobby’s ( I don’t ). Can now go to school functions with our son and our daughter ( ours between us ). I have my step-son on my medical plan and have ever since the first couple of months of our marriage because his Dad didn’t, got tired of medical businesses contacting us on why they hadn’t gotten paid ( which I don’t blame them at all ). So, I fixed it by putting him on my account. I’m there for him 24/7 but ask for his respect as well. In return, he has PLENTY… In return, I am starting to get lip and respect and Mom runs to his rescue. Sorry, just like I should know her, she should know me. I was way into my Air Force career when we got married and this Air Force will be finding our retirement. I am the sort of fella that believes everything has a place and it is difficult to put it here or there, period. It isn’t rocket science or digging ditches…

SO, with all that I bring to the table, I think respect in how I want to the house to be in regards to clutter and tidiness should be honored. I think that is a fair exchange for financial freedom for all of kids, our future/retirement and medical needs. Like today, I was upset at our son because I told him to clean his toilet and pops off why couldn’t his sister… Dude, the back of the toilet doesn’t get soiled from girls, they sit down !!! So, now my wife is upset, throws down that she’s going to clean the house today and because of that, she doesn’t get to do what she wants… News flash, I have that every day Monday through Friday ( but I didn’t tell her that ). Instead of whining about it, one should do it because it needs to be done and it is something the other spouse values… I don’t whine when I go to work. I do it because I like it and it provides for my family…

No… I think what he’s saying is “up to 40 hours a week”. Obviously you can’t spend 8 hours a day, 5 days a week on housework anymore, unless you do obsessive stuff like clean your tub thoroughly every day, change your sheets every day, do laundry every day, vacuum every day, sweep and mop every day, dust every day, and then do a laundry list of other seldom-done housekeeping chores like cleaning baseboards, vacuuming curtains, cleaning windows, etc…

But if you do it in a less insane manner, you could spend 2-3 hours a day doing stuff like that, and keep the place pretty much spotless, and that would probably satisfy a working spouse.

hemi68charger sounds like you and your wife need counseling. She apparently doesn’t like the way you communicate to her and she has some resentment toward you and your treatment of your stepson that needs working on.

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[li]Get a maid.[/li][li]Get a job that is less than 60+hours a week.[/li][li]Nobody cleans the litter box “with gladness”.[/li][li]Have a family meeting to discuss chores.[/li][li]Your kids are going to give you more than “lip”, it’s what kids do.[/li][li]Family Therapy is an options.[/li][/ul]

Happy Holidays!:slight_smile:

Confused…

I treat my step-son no differently than my daughter. I hold them both to the same age-appropriate standards ( actually, my daughter gets a little more stricter guidance since I tread on ice sometimes with my step-son since he isn’t mine ). I provide everything he and she needs, we do stuff together ( albeit, he holds his father to a much higher status than I as would be expected - worships the ground he walks on even though he sees him once a month at most, but I still provide everything he needs )… Yes, my wife and I do need counseling and are getting it via our church adult-counselor. The boy is going through the teenage rebellious years as would be expected, but on the flip-side, I’m not going to let him get away with disrespecting me or his mother “just because he’s at the phase”… Kids will be kids, but parents will be parents…

I think it depends on what you mean by “clean.” As far as I’m concerned, an organized house is a family obligation - you have to work as a family to determine how to organize your house around your family’s needs. Just because one person works, that doesn’t mean that the working person is the final arbiter of how the house is organized. Everyone lives in it, so everyone must contribute to keeping the house organized, which includes not leaving shit everywhere. Similarly, evening-related messes such as cleaning up after dinner need to be divided however works for you. Just because you worked during the day doesn’t mean you get a free pass to not do anything.

That said, during the day, yes, I think the non-working spouse (assuming he or she is not actively pursuing a job) does have an obligation to keep the house clean, including whatever cadence of “deep clean” you’ve agreed on (emphasis on agreed on), such as bathrooms and whatever doesn’t happen to get done at night or on weekends, including management of exteriors and/or contractors if you use them - unless the other spouse frequently has special requests or questions, in which case, it makes no sense to play a ridiculous game of telephone.

Regardless, I think that saying that whoever is working gets to be the final arbiter of “clean” is silly - then it becomes more of an employer-employee relationship rather than the partnership marriage should be.

Nm

People who work long hours have to make sacrifices. One of those is not being able to have the house “just so”. Single, married, whatever. That’s just a reality of having a demanding job.

Your wife is not your personal concierge, and you don’t get to purchase extra shares of household decision making power.

When I was married my wife was a stay at home mom for several years. We had a gardener and I usually worked two jobs, we had two kids. She had the house almost clean before the kids left for school. I would usually prepare the lunches. She wasn’t much of a cook so I would help with dinner. She did all the shopping and managed the bills. On weekends we would both work in the yard mostly trimming the bushes and trees. She did all of the laundry.

 The only difference when she worked was that I did more shopping and cooking. We both did after dinner clean up regardless of who was working. 

She also handles all the paperwork from my small part time from home businesses I always had going.

Even though it’s ten years later, this is still a good question, and the answers may very well have changed since then.

I was never a housewife, in the ‘married to the house’ sort of way. But I did stay home one year each with my two boys when they were born. Because I wasn’t working in the traditional sense, I did take on more of the chores at home during that period. Since I was up early with an infant, I cooked breakfast, and I cooked dinner every day. I did endless loads of washing and swiped the house down with antibacterial wipes regularly throughout the day - mostly due to said infant. Dogs and baby(ies) got a daily walk, dogs got brushed and vacuuming got done during naptime. I continued to do the family finances as I always had, because my scientist husband tended to forget the mundane chores like paying bills until someone called and spoke to him in a very stern manner. :slight_smile:

When hubby got home, he had dinner waiting for him. He ate, then bathed baby and put baby to bed, so the guys would have some time together. I’d load the dishwasher and make a quick trip to the grocery store if needed. I also took out the trash on the way to the garage.

On Saturday, I’d do the yard work (because I enjoyed it and because…absent minded scientist with power tools…), while hubby took baby and dogs to the park.

On Sunday, hubby would take the ‘honey do’ list and I’d be the point person for the baby. Late on Sunday afternoon, we’d usually go someplace as a family (zoo, botanical gardens, etc.)

The only occasionaly bone of contention involved clutter. I’m not a neatnik. I like things clean, but clutter doesn’t bother me until it reaches critical mass. Hubby, on the other hand, was very much a neatnik. So the task of tidying up fell on his shoulders more or less by default.

When I went back to work, we had an in-home nanny/housekeeper who cleaned house and took care of the boys. No, it wasn’t necessarily cheap, but we valued our family time and didn’t want to waste it cleaning up. So we budgeted for it. Whoever had the less stressful day cooked dinner. If we both had heinous days, we’d go out for dinner.

I think, as a modern family with endless committments for either work or kids activities, you really do have to sit down and divide up the household chores. Each should go for their strengths and then negotiate the things no one likes to do, or budget for some help like we did.

My husband has passed away and the kids are grown and gone, but I’m still working a crazy schedule and I sure do wish I still had the help!

For the record, the couple in question has been divorced for half a decade now, and the wife in question now has kids with another man.